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karynnj

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60. Neither :-)Edwards or Gore were either
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jun 2020

Adding some on from Tennessee is doubling down on one area not adding an area. In 2004, it was explained that Edwards was not chosen for geography, but for personal pluses he showed in the primary.

Both the media and many powerful people in the Democratic party were impressed by Edwards. The media had plenty of articles claiming that the only reason he might not be picked is because Kerry feared being overshadowed by the charismatic Edwards. They never explained why, if he was SO charismatic, Kerry easily defeated him. The good press did lead to polls adding him as VP helping more than others and both Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy praised the idea of adding him. In reality, he was a terrible pick because he was not the engaged Edwards of the primary and he refused to be a team player and was only concerned about how things reflected on him. It is clear he wanted the position just to set himself up for 2008.

This year, like 2004, the person who easily won the nomination is publicly being told he needs the excitement of a good VP pick. In 2008, it was repeated that Kerry advised Obama to pick a VP he wanted to have at his side to run the country. I always wondered if that was a bit instinct he wished he would have followed when told by many his best chances were with taking Edwards, who otherwise would not have been his choice.

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I could dig it... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #1
Works for me. nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #3
Better as AG liberalgunwilltravel Jun 2020 #81
You know she turned down the US attorney general job for Obama in 2014 right? irisblue Jun 2020 #92
Oh! Welcome to DU irisblue Jun 2020 #93
Mahalo, PunkinPi.. Cha Jun 2020 #2
Hey Cha... PunkinPi Jun 2020 #6
Yeah, it is.. like a seismic shift.. we are Cha Jun 2020 #36
We live in interesting times, as they say. PunkinPi Jun 2020 #41
Would love this! Docreed2003 Jun 2020 #4
Hard same! nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #8
k&r bigtree Jun 2020 #5
bad idea. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #7
Michigan is solid blue this time. roamer65 Jun 2020 #11
wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania are not jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #14
We traded Toledo for the Upper Peninsula in 1836. roamer65 Jun 2020 #15
ouch! jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #20
The Toledo War. roamer65 Jun 2020 #23
Ferries operated until 1957. roamer65 Jun 2020 #26
Joe's got PA BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #25
Neither :-)Edwards or Gore were either karynnj Jun 2020 #60
Meh Cosmocat Jun 2020 #47
Big Gretchen will not help in Ohio. irisblue Jun 2020 #94
Do you mean it's better to pick a white person? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #19
ayanna pressley would be a better pick, but she isnt on the shortlist :) jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #24
I know I favor Kamala Harris. roamer65 Jun 2020 #30
whitmer would give us an even more progressive governor in michigan. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #37
Yes he is. roamer65 Jun 2020 #45
An all-white ticket in this time of great racial unrest. So wrong. So not smart. brush Jun 2020 #31
a persons record trumps their skin color jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #33
And I guess you've not heard of Demings, Abrams, Rice, the Atlanta mayor? brush Jun 2020 #43
because police are gonna be more popular than DAs? jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #44
You're not coming off well. Enjoy your stay. brush Jun 2020 #50
I like to think I am allowed to have an opinion on vice president jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #52
That's what people always say when arguing a black person shouldn't get a job that previously StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #49
there are more black people qualified for vp than on the shortlist jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #51
Has it occurred to you that law enforcement is one of the few areas a black person can StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #53
funny because there are plenty of black people in higher office that dont. jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #56
Oh, please StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #66
you might as well have said that. all those people got there without law enforcement jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #67
I didn't say they are more qualified because they are in law enforcement StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #68
that is an interesting perspective but we shouldn't be choosing our nominees jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #78
What makes you think I believe that we should choose our nominees based on what white people think? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #89
Biden himself was picked as VP becsuse he was a white man that made certain JI7 Jun 2020 #100
That's different StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #105
Don't blame a black woman for racist white cops JI7 Jun 2020 #102
I was thinking Whitmer for awhile but looks like Michigan is solid based on recent polling. honest.abe Jun 2020 #57
It's Joe who's gonna flip those states RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #72
Joe Biden can do that part himself. marmar Jun 2020 #98
Biden already appeals to that type JI7 Jun 2020 #101
I seem to recall StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #106
I'd like to see broader polling on this. BComplex Jun 2020 #9
28% support reminds me of the Sanders strategy to win the nomination Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #21
This: BComplex Jun 2020 #28
My wife can't stand Kamala Harris, and thinks that choice would be a disaster Martin Eden Jun 2020 #111
Kamala turns off a lot of people for some reason. BComplex Jun 2020 #112
Pls, no all-white ticket. Diversity is the Democratic Party's strength. brush Jun 2020 #39
So the others at less then half her support are in a better position to win?? honest.abe Jun 2020 #62
Works for me. ooky Jun 2020 #10
Gov Gavin Newsom (D) would replace her... PunkinPi Jun 2020 #12
Perfect! ooky Jun 2020 #13
You're welcome. PunkinPi Jun 2020 #18
Katie Porter!!! She'd be awesome in the Senate! BComplex Jun 2020 #29
Yes she would. nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #32
That would be a winning ticket. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #16
And again I ask-- why do we give a shit what Democrats think? Aren't we... TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #17
Well, it's nice to know where Democrats stand. PunkinPi Jun 2020 #22
"Warren is too cold".... ????? dixiechiken1 Jun 2020 #38
Just watching her relate to crowds and others. Harris and a few others just seem more open. TreasonousBastard Jun 2020 #48
Okay, thanks! dixiechiken1 Jun 2020 #55
Agreed Ba2020 Jun 2020 #99
No one ever says that about male candidates ... StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #107
I find Warren to be a very warm and friendly person. Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #114
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #27
Glad to hear it. (nt) Paladin Jun 2020 #34
Senator Harris is my top choice for VP Gothmog Jun 2020 #35
Woooopp!! K&R onetexan Jun 2020 #40
It seems like a no-brainer at this point. tritsofme Jun 2020 #42
I agree. nt Andy823 Jun 2020 #46
Yep.. she's the one. honest.abe Jun 2020 #54
Agreed. Nice avatar. ;) nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #58
Thanks! honest.abe Jun 2020 #61
Awesome. nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #64
I'm all in, although any of the fine women listed would also be OK. NNadir Jun 2020 #59
she is tough and smart scarytomcat Jun 2020 #63
Works for me. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #65
At this point, I'd be shocked if she's not the VP pick Blasphemer Jun 2020 #69
I called this weeks ago...she is great ashredux Jun 2020 #70
if I was Joe Biden.... quickesst Jun 2020 #71
She is MY pick. nt Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #73
She's been my top VP pick all along, I hope Joe chooses her chia Jun 2020 #74
Why do they include Michelle Obama as a possible VP pick when she is absolutely adamant that scarletwoman Jun 2020 #75
The more I think about it, the more I like it... paleotn Jun 2020 #76
No surprise, there mcar Jun 2020 #77
Qualified, and with good chemistry. Works for me. FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #79
Personally, I like Susan Rice jimlup Jun 2020 #80
I am down with it. boston bean Jun 2020 #82
Yes! And Sally Yates for AG! SunSeeker Jun 2020 #83
At this point I think it's obvious that she's the preferred choice among Democrats, and HIGHLY.... George II Jun 2020 #84
If you read the Monmouth Poll info, they say the poll isn't representative of the pnwmom Jun 2020 #85
Not me. sellitman Jun 2020 #86
Kamala Tweet on this.. Cha Jun 2020 #87
Remember during the primary when the stuff started with Biden and the Ukraine... PunkinPi Jun 2020 #110
I had forgotten.. TY for the reminder, Punkin! Cha Jun 2020 #120
Not in my humble opinion left-of-center2012 Jun 2020 #88
Kamala Harris IS very frequently mentioned in the media as one of the top contenders for the VP nod. PTWB Jun 2020 #90
Like I said ... left-of-center2012 Jun 2020 #96
There is a reason she's mentioned frequently PTWB Jun 2020 #97
None of those frequently mentioned left-of-center2012 Jun 2020 #104
I love Kamala - super smart with personality womanofthehills Jun 2020 #91
+100000 Celerity Jun 2020 #95
Works for me! She is hella smart, outspoken in her beliefs, and really funny too Lucinda Jun 2020 #103
FWIW, sample skews heavily to elderly white voters in IA and NH maximusveritas Jun 2020 #108
I'm not there yet. However, I'll respect whatever decision Joe Biden makes. I still like Val. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2020 #109
Who he chooses won't effect my vote Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #113
Really? "she's about as exciting as Tim Kaine?" LOL nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #115
To me she is. You may feel differently. Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #116
Sure you can have your own opinion, but I'm trying to figure PunkinPi Jun 2020 #117
By that I mean I find her very unexciting Marrah_Goodman Jun 2020 #118
Ok, fair enough. nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #119
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