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TexasTowelie

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Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:06 PM Jun 2020

Unsanitized: Why Deaths May Not Spike Despite Rising Coronavirus Cases [View all]

The weekend produced the same out-of-control case counts in the South and Southwest. The case increases cannot be explained by increased testing alone; on Friday one-quarter of Arizona tests were found positive, up from around 8 percent on Memorial Day, when the rise began. Florida had a record single-day case count on Friday, and about a quarter of Alabama’s total cases have come in the last week. Nationwide, on Saturday the U.S. registered the highest case numbers since May 1.

Take a look at the death counts, however, which have definitively slowed. Sunday we saw only 297 deaths, very low even when accounting for a slow reporting day. The seven-day rolling average is under 600 and headed down in a fairly linear fashion.

All the caveats about how positive tests are incomplete, how deaths are probably incomplete, etc., apply. But the trends are clear enough: case counts are rising, rapidly in some spots, and deaths are dropping. Deaths aren’t even rising all that much in states where cases are flying.

Now, this is perfectly consistent. Deaths are a lagging indicator: you catch the coronavirus, you get sick, for some that sickness progressively worsens, and then you die. But cases started to rise in these states as much as four weeks ago. The lag should have caught up to the extent that we’d at least see some rise in deaths. Yet we have not. And though I’m uncomfortable making any kind of prediction when it comes to this virus, falling deaths could or even should continue even as cases go up. Here’s why.

Read more: https://prospect.org/coronavirus/unsanitized-deaths-may-not-spike-despite-rising-cases/
(American Prospect)

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I think we should look at cause of death. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #1
Monday numbers always lag soothsayer Jun 2020 #2
No, I'm talking about lying about COVID-19 deaths. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #4
Yes, this is true. A "mystery" illness, probably undiagnosed Covid-19, is Doodley Jun 2020 #7
Says who?! Deaths lag ... Hospitalization are through the roof in these places deaths usually follow uponit7771 Jun 2020 #17
Widely reported. Doodley Jun 2020 #20
Ah, NY reported these deaths Florida won't uponit7771 Jun 2020 #22
His reasoning why reasons look plausible.... riversedge Jun 2020 #3
My county has had two deaths in as many days. Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #5
The virus is less lethal than it was. Before, elderly people would more likely die, Doodley Jun 2020 #6
Says who? LisaL Jun 2020 #8
Matteo Bassetti, head of infectious diseases at San Martino hospital: Virus is weaker than it was. Doodley Jun 2020 #19
That dude is in Italy. LisaL Jun 2020 #23
Viruses don't mutate to cross borders. Doodley Jun 2020 #25
That kind of thing tends to be fairly common with viruses. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #24
Pathogens that kill the host rapidly Disaffected Jun 2020 #27
No, deaths lag peaks by 2 wks. uponit7771 Jun 2020 #16
From the CDC, week ending 6/19 Progressive dog Jun 2020 #9
'And we know a lot more about this disease from a medical standpoint than we did in March. elleng Jun 2020 #10
Most people I know who are 50+ are staying home Nictuku Jun 2020 #11
Rachel's Arizona story was weird. The ICUs there are drowning in covid. But, if you mucifer Jun 2020 #12
+1, deaths lag 2 - 3 weeks behind peaks of NY area is going to be repeated uponit7771 Jun 2020 #15
One bit of help is that we know some of the most at-risk groups unblock Jun 2020 #13
Deaths lag, hospitalization has gone up sharp usually deaths follow uponit7771 Jun 2020 #14
I also think they have a better handle on it, understand it better, and treat better. LizBeth Jun 2020 #18
Exactly right greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #21
It's pretty scary when we're applauding "fewer deaths" as good news... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #26
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