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riversedge

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3. His reasoning why reasons look plausible....
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jun 2020
https://prospect.org/coronavirus/unsanitized-deaths-may-not-spike-despite-rising-cases/


...............There is some indication that positive tests are clustering around younger people. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said the median age for new cases was 37, and in Texas, Greg Abbott said a majority of new cases were from people under 30. Trust but verify, but it’s somewhat logical to believe that younger people are more restless and careless with social distancing measures.

We know that the COVID-19 mortality rate rises so much for older people and those who are immunocompromised. People at most risk certainly recognize those risks more than they did in, say, March, and are more likely to isolate and act accordingly. Even a small shift to younger carriers will translate into a lower overall mortality rate.

.........................While I don’t have much trust in Southern governors to respond to rising cases by mandating mask use or locking down parts of their states, they do have the ability to learn from the most egregious mistakes. Andrew Cuomo put sick people who tested positive back in nursing homes. I doubt we will see that replicated.

And we know a lot more about this disease from a medical standpoint than we did in March. There are more treatments that seem to work. Dexamethasone appears to reduce death in seriously ill patients. An osteoporosis drug is showing some promise. We know that intubation is not necessary in all patients with low oxygen levels. Doctors have been wrestling with this thing for three months and they’ve found a couple things that work, not well, but let’s say better. That could be pushing down mortality rates slightly as well.

None of this is to say that coronavirus is a benign disease. There’s clear evidence that its symptoms can linger in people for months, that it can cause severe lung scarring, and that even young people can die from it. But we’re talking about rates of death here. Tom Frieden, former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, agrees that those death rates are likely to be lower.

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I think we should look at cause of death. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #1
Monday numbers always lag soothsayer Jun 2020 #2
No, I'm talking about lying about COVID-19 deaths. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #4
Yes, this is true. A "mystery" illness, probably undiagnosed Covid-19, is Doodley Jun 2020 #7
Says who?! Deaths lag ... Hospitalization are through the roof in these places deaths usually follow uponit7771 Jun 2020 #17
Widely reported. Doodley Jun 2020 #20
Ah, NY reported these deaths Florida won't uponit7771 Jun 2020 #22
His reasoning why reasons look plausible.... riversedge Jun 2020 #3
My county has had two deaths in as many days. Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #5
The virus is less lethal than it was. Before, elderly people would more likely die, Doodley Jun 2020 #6
Says who? LisaL Jun 2020 #8
Matteo Bassetti, head of infectious diseases at San Martino hospital: Virus is weaker than it was. Doodley Jun 2020 #19
That dude is in Italy. LisaL Jun 2020 #23
Viruses don't mutate to cross borders. Doodley Jun 2020 #25
That kind of thing tends to be fairly common with viruses. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #24
Pathogens that kill the host rapidly Disaffected Jun 2020 #27
No, deaths lag peaks by 2 wks. uponit7771 Jun 2020 #16
From the CDC, week ending 6/19 Progressive dog Jun 2020 #9
'And we know a lot more about this disease from a medical standpoint than we did in March. elleng Jun 2020 #10
Most people I know who are 50+ are staying home Nictuku Jun 2020 #11
Rachel's Arizona story was weird. The ICUs there are drowning in covid. But, if you mucifer Jun 2020 #12
+1, deaths lag 2 - 3 weeks behind peaks of NY area is going to be repeated uponit7771 Jun 2020 #15
One bit of help is that we know some of the most at-risk groups unblock Jun 2020 #13
Deaths lag, hospitalization has gone up sharp usually deaths follow uponit7771 Jun 2020 #14
I also think they have a better handle on it, understand it better, and treat better. LizBeth Jun 2020 #18
Exactly right greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #21
It's pretty scary when we're applauding "fewer deaths" as good news... Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #26
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