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Iris

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106. Many doctors encourage cutting back b/c quitting old turkey would cause more stress

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Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:38 PM

Sep 2012

to the mother and, as a result, more harm to the child.

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Man Pointed Gun at Pregnant Smoker [View all] Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 OP

"found two Glock semiautomatic ... and booked him." good. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #1

I am utterly dismayed Scairp Sep 2012 #115

How did he "know" she was pregnant? People get in trouble making those kinds of assumptions. MADem Sep 2012 #2

When is it OK to ask a woman if she's pregnant? nichomachus Sep 2012 #12

Absolutely correct. Gold Metal Flake Sep 2012 #39

Perhaps when the baby is crowning? MADem Sep 2012 #43

I've always told my wife... Number_9 Sep 2012 #59

Huh? Why can you not ask a woman about a medical condition? RB TexLa Sep 2012 #63

The same reason you can't ask anyone else about a medical condition unless they bring it up. wickerwoman Sep 2012 #64

Gun nuts are exactly that Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #3

Way too much stupid in one story...nt joeybee12 Sep 2012 #4

You have the winner ! deaniac21 Sep 2012 #119

She's kind of doing the same HappyMe Sep 2012 #5

no. she is not. nt seabeyond Sep 2012 #7

Correct. smoking while pregnant is worse Incitatus Sep 2012 #13

Not worse than what could have happened to the baby with the mother under... NCTraveler Sep 2012 #26

The mother smoking is not worse for the baby then the mother being shot Marrah_G Sep 2012 #100

Not to mention that many doctors would say quitting old turkey may cause Iris Sep 2012 #102

Um....yeah, she is. liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #22

It's a drug addiction. I don't see a reason to slam her like this. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #28

I'm an ex-smoker, believe me, I'm well liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #40

Ex-smoker here, too. We're not all the same and for some even pregnancy isn't enough... cynatnite Sep 2012 #47

I am awaiting with some sense of dread fo roguevalley Sep 2012 #66

I can not beleive that she actually thought that d_r Sep 2012 #77

Sounds like you should put child protective services on speed dial. alphafemale Sep 2012 #81

What? Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #44

I never said that... cynatnite Sep 2012 #49

Yeah well I draw the line when you abuse your children Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #50

I smoked through 3 pregnancies knowing it wasn't good for the babies... cynatnite Sep 2012 #51

If I post what I really think it will get moderated. Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #52

If you want to stop her from hurting her baby, helping her is a good start... cynatnite Sep 2012 #53

According to the article she seemed pretty proud of her smoking. Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #54

Actually, interpretation counts in this instance. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #55

Or perhaps she was standing up to a man in a car bullying her. Marrah_G Sep 2012 #107

That's an interesting...statistic you stated; Cerridwen Sep 2012 #69

Really? Look up disease theory of addiction, it is very controversial in the medical field Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #78

How about some scholarly sources? Iris Sep 2012 #108

Just curious where you weigh in on choice? etherealtruth Sep 2012 #57

I can't speak for the other poster, but ecstatic Sep 2012 #72

Smoking and many other behaviors are bad for all etherealtruth Sep 2012 #86

I am curious where you weigh in on global warming. Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #75

What an odd and irrelevant response etherealtruth Sep 2012 #87

It's her choice to decide if she wants to CONTINUE the pregnancy Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #88

What should be the consequences for these women? etherealtruth Sep 2012 #92

Ah yes, now we are into THEORY Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #95

If you make THE CHOICE to have a child you have a responsibility to the health of that child. alphafemale Sep 2012 #83

Does this apply to all the bad choices a person can make etherealtruth Sep 2012 #89

I don't agree with you Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #93

Yeah. alphafemale Sep 2012 #96

LOL ... you appear to know me far better than those in my life etherealtruth Sep 2012 #97

Glad it wasn't considered abuse 55 years ago SOS Sep 2012 #71

Give me a break. Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #74

Cigarette companies knew the consequences Laurajr Sep 2012 #79

I agree, if you plan on carrying a baby to term Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #82

We should totally fill the jails with pregnant smokers. Marrah_G Sep 2012 #105

Many doctors encourage cutting back b/c quitting old turkey would cause more stress Iris Sep 2012 #106

I have to ask, are you also anti-abortion? Marrah_G Sep 2012 #101

I wish there really was a god Scairp Sep 2012 #109

No she isn't Marrah_G Sep 2012 #99

Christ, not here too Scairp Sep 2012 #103

Her body her choice (nt) The Straight Story Sep 2012 #104

WTF? n/t Control-Z Sep 2012 #118

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT PRENATAL HEALTH?!?!? Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #6

LOL deutsey Sep 2012 #11

MARK IT ZERO!!!!!!!!! Initech Sep 2012 #16

There are rules, dude. This isn't Nam! Taverner Sep 2012 #29

kr. This is what happens when classes of people are demonized -- people feel justified in HiPointDem Sep 2012 #8

The taxes nichomachus Sep 2012 #14

tobacco taxes fund 14% of new hampshire's state budget, 11% of alaska's, 7% of oregon's, HiPointDem Sep 2012 #31

There's a good way poor people can escape the taxes nichomachus Sep 2012 #34

yeah, we couldn't tax rich people so there'd be fewer poor people. that would be fucking unamerican HiPointDem Sep 2012 #70

Ohnoes. NOT TAXES! Scootaloo Sep 2012 #21

Yeah, I have a thing about poor people being taxed and rich people sliding. Sue me. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #32

well most people are not nuts enough to pull a gun on a pregnant woman WI_DEM Sep 2012 #33

No woman should smoke while she's pregnant, but no way would I pull out a gun over it... cynatnite Sep 2012 #9

+1 sakabatou Sep 2012 #10

No stranger gets to tell any woman what to do, but I wouldn't pull a gun over that. Chorophyll Sep 2012 #17

I wouldn't anyway. As a woman, I don't like much being dictated to either. :) n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #20

...and this is what happens when one political party decides women are nothing but baby-vessels, Chorophyll Sep 2012 #15

+1 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2012 #23

The REAL issue is not whether or not a pregnant woman should smoke, SheilaT Sep 2012 #18

The hypocrisy in this is riculous loyalsister Sep 2012 #38

Because the baby could... survive... the mother,,, getting... shot? BarackTheVote Sep 2012 #41

+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #90

Yes- bullets are way better for babies. Marrah_G Sep 2012 #110

That's it in a nut shell! etherealtruth Sep 2012 #94

I got lectured for having a cup of COFFEE with breakfast HockeyMom Sep 2012 #19

They were probably eating a bacon cheese burger with fries and 1 liter of coke. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #24

So what's he going to do shoot and kill her for smoking out of concern for the baby? cherish44 Sep 2012 #25

Cigarettes are just about the most difficult addiction to break. NCTraveler Sep 2012 #27

They sure as hell are a difficult addition to break. RebelOne Sep 2012 #42

that happened to me! I couldn't even smoke one cigarette without getting sick. ejpoeta Sep 2012 #85

Kudos to your husband. n/t RebelOne Sep 2012 #114

And in some cases doctors will settle for cutting back if that's all the mother can do. Iris Sep 2012 #112

To quote the late great Bill Hicks: "We're pro life and we're gonna kill your ass!" Initech Sep 2012 #30

Women should not be smoking while pregnant. Alduin Sep 2012 #35

And yet tobacco is not banned in America shintao Sep 2012 #36

Wait...what? Alduin Sep 2012 #37

The woman CAN smoke, even though it is not best for the fetus. It is her body, her right. peacebird Sep 2012 #117

CAN be damaging maxsolomon Sep 2012 #45

Same here johnnie Sep 2012 #48

Rare??? Alduin Sep 2012 #62

I didn't say it was "OK" to smoke while pregnant - I gave a personal anecdote. maxsolomon Sep 2012 #98

Yes, the risk has been proven. Iris Sep 2012 #111

The anti-choicers in a nutshell ck4829 Sep 2012 #46

Contrary to opinions expressed, a woman does not lose her autonomy when pregnant etherealtruth Sep 2012 #56

Pregnancy, Smoking AND Guns.. Crap, it's like a DU Popcorn Trifecta! Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #58

I guess it was too soon for breast-feeding! Bake Sep 2012 #60

Maybe a follow-up about holding a gun at a circumcision? boppers Sep 2012 #67

Followed by holding a gun at a crying child in a restaurant. name not needed Sep 2012 #121

Too bad he didn't sic a pitbull on her. wickerwoman Sep 2012 #65

If we hadn't bombed the Moon this would have never happened. name not needed Sep 2012 #116

hehe Marrah_G Sep 2012 #120

both of these two are real winners scheming daemons Sep 2012 #61

Yeah. I was thinking what happens when two assholes collide. nt alphafemale Sep 2012 #84

Another responsible gun owner, looking out for the general public. boppers Sep 2012 #68

I believe there are people here that would have no problem in shooting a smoker. Whovian Sep 2012 #73

Guns! bongbong Sep 2012 #76

What if she had been smoking one of them mareewanna cigarattes? boston bean Sep 2012 #80

... krispos42 Sep 2012 #91

my favorite opening line of the year: trailmonkee Sep 2012 #113