UW-Madison students call for removal of Lincoln statue

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73. Not at all.

If iconoclasm is a "dead end" I suppose it is my imagination that the confederate flag has been banned from NASCAR events, that Mississippi is poised to eliminate it from their state flag and that statues of confederates being toppled left and right? You claim an immeasurable as if it were fact - that I overrate the effect of statues and underrate the attachment of people to symbols. I say you do the opposite! Alas, my claim is just as immeasurable as yours.

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with your final paragraph. While I have had several very vocal detractors, I feel quite welcome by the majority of folks here and have for the last year and a half. I enjoyed the primary forum where I first supported Kamala Harris and then supported Elizabeth Warren. I admit that Joe Biden was not my choice and I'm really hoping picks Harris as his VP but I don't think that is a position which would arouse much opposition.

The only thread I've posted which could be considered controversial in subject matter - exposing Michelle Caruso-Cabrera's ultra-right wing pedigree - was incredibly well received but all by the most ardent AOC detractors.

My goal here is not to get an 'Amen!' from anyone - we are all Democrats and preaching to the choir isn't interesting or meaningful. Our goal should be to make our party stronger and more effective, but on an individual level I would like to see us drag our party and our country further to the left. We've got a lot of dragging to do in order to counter the rightward drift we've seen since Reagan.