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In reply to the discussion: For Biden VP, Black Democrats are torn between Harris and Warren [View all]Fiendish Thingy
(23,892 posts)50. The number one job of VP is to help the ticket win, period. Follow the data, folks
In 5 polls in the past two months, Warren is consistently the top VP choice of Dem voters, and with one exception (when Abrams was first choice) Warren was the top choice or tied with Harris for top choice of Black voters.
I dont recall any other candidate having a specific, detailed plan for Black America.
Warren does:
https://elizabethwarren.com/plans/agenda-black-america
For too long, Black communities have been locked out of opportunity.
The path to economic security is steep and rocky for millions of working people in this country, and it is steeper and rockier for Black Americans. Over the years, Americas middle class has been deliberately hollowed out, and families of color have been systematically discriminated against and denied their chance to build real security. This economic squeeze has touched every community in America; and for Black communities that have stared down structural racism for generations, the squeeze has been even tighter.
Long before I got into politics, I wrote about how Black Americans are more likely to fall into bankruptcy than white Americans, and how payday and subprime lenders are basically legally sanctioned corporate swindlers who prey on families of color. And Ive always come back to this one central question: who does government work for?
If were going to reshape our economy, restore our government and save our democracy we need bold, structural solutions to the problems we face as a nation. And that means tackling generations of racial injustice and systemic discrimination head on.
Thats exactly what my plans do. Here are a few examples:
My student debt cancellation plan will help close the wealth gap between Black and white families.
My criminal justice plan will end the practice of mass incarceration that has destroyed the lives of so many Black and brown men and their families.
My housing plan will help families living in formerly redlined areas buy a home and start building the kind of wealth that government-sponsored discrimination denied their parents and grandparents.
My plan for entrepreneurs of color will level the playing field by creating a new program with $7 billion in funding to provide grants to entrepreneurs of color.
My environmental justice plan includes justice for the Black and Brown communities that have struggled with the impact of pollution, and my plan respects the rights of Native Americans to protect their lands and be good stewards of this earth.
And on day one of my Administration, I will use my executive authority to start closing the pay gap between women of color and everyone else - because its about time we fully valued the work of women of color.
In our country, if you work hard, you ought to be able to take care of yourself and the people you love. That should be the fundamental promise of America. This is deeply personal to me because I got a real taste of opportunity: my father ended up as a janitor, but I got to be a public school teacher, law professor, a United States Senator, and a candidate for president. Im deeply grateful, and Im running for president because I want every kid to have a chance to build a future. For me, it all comes down to opportunity.
But heres the thing, real opportunity requires honesty. We must recognize the systemic discrimination that infects our country, and we must work actively - and deliberately - to root it out and set us on a better path. This agenda is a work in progress and will continue to be updated based on input and insight from Black activists, community leaders, organizers, policy experts, and stakeholders. Heres how well do it:
The path to economic security is steep and rocky for millions of working people in this country, and it is steeper and rockier for Black Americans. Over the years, Americas middle class has been deliberately hollowed out, and families of color have been systematically discriminated against and denied their chance to build real security. This economic squeeze has touched every community in America; and for Black communities that have stared down structural racism for generations, the squeeze has been even tighter.
Long before I got into politics, I wrote about how Black Americans are more likely to fall into bankruptcy than white Americans, and how payday and subprime lenders are basically legally sanctioned corporate swindlers who prey on families of color. And Ive always come back to this one central question: who does government work for?
If were going to reshape our economy, restore our government and save our democracy we need bold, structural solutions to the problems we face as a nation. And that means tackling generations of racial injustice and systemic discrimination head on.
Thats exactly what my plans do. Here are a few examples:
My student debt cancellation plan will help close the wealth gap between Black and white families.
My criminal justice plan will end the practice of mass incarceration that has destroyed the lives of so many Black and brown men and their families.
My housing plan will help families living in formerly redlined areas buy a home and start building the kind of wealth that government-sponsored discrimination denied their parents and grandparents.
My plan for entrepreneurs of color will level the playing field by creating a new program with $7 billion in funding to provide grants to entrepreneurs of color.
My environmental justice plan includes justice for the Black and Brown communities that have struggled with the impact of pollution, and my plan respects the rights of Native Americans to protect their lands and be good stewards of this earth.
And on day one of my Administration, I will use my executive authority to start closing the pay gap between women of color and everyone else - because its about time we fully valued the work of women of color.
In our country, if you work hard, you ought to be able to take care of yourself and the people you love. That should be the fundamental promise of America. This is deeply personal to me because I got a real taste of opportunity: my father ended up as a janitor, but I got to be a public school teacher, law professor, a United States Senator, and a candidate for president. Im deeply grateful, and Im running for president because I want every kid to have a chance to build a future. For me, it all comes down to opportunity.
But heres the thing, real opportunity requires honesty. We must recognize the systemic discrimination that infects our country, and we must work actively - and deliberately - to root it out and set us on a better path. This agenda is a work in progress and will continue to be updated based on input and insight from Black activists, community leaders, organizers, policy experts, and stakeholders. Heres how well do it:
Much, much more detail at link.
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I believe she has said she's not interested in that role or the Supreme Court.
writes3000
Jun 2020
#2
In Massachusetts, the appointment is temporary until the next scheduled primary election,
BComplex
Jun 2020
#31
After Harris and Booker left Warren was the only still having conversation and reaching out to the
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#9
Regardless what you saw, she does have support from the AA community. And respect.
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#15
Over one article? How about all the articles that say Elizabeth Warren is the one most democrats
BComplex
Jul 2020
#93
Please don't spread the myth about Warren as VP costing Dems the senate majority
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#48
The timing of the legislation is affected by the timing of Warren's resignation
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#58
Yes, that's the point - no one wants to wait for a special election
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2020
#59
What the Democrats will NOT do, is screw up the Senate. If Biden chose Warren, I am confident beyond
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#66
A lot of the myth carriers are Democrats that are rooting for a different VP because it serves their
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#76
The poll in the OP is from May, here's a newer one from Economist/YouGov showing Harris in the lead
PunkinPi
Jun 2020
#51
Yes they are jocking position of the #1 position serving under a VP that well has the confidence of
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#67
That and the narrative also assumes that black people are so blinded by color that
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#47
It's pretty clear that there's a last-ditch effort afoot to get Biden to pick Warren
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#85
Harris would be great in AG. Warren compliments Biden weakness, we need her to go after Wallstreet
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#8
Warren just is not going to cow. But, Harris speaks up too. I love our women, lol.
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#68
Rice is not on voters' Radar, and would help the ticket about as much as Tim Kaine did nt
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#49
I am not telling any woman that it is their time to sit down and be quiet. We have been told that
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#20
Another reason I really like Warren is she excites our young people. I am around lots of 20 somethin
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#69
That's great for a presidential candidate, but it's irrelevant and even a demerit for a VP nom
EffieBlack
Jun 2020
#87
In my opinion it's Kamala's gig to lose. She just ticks too many boxes to be passed over.
Seasider
Jun 2020
#23
Kamala's just not that popular. I'm glad she's on our side, but I don't care for her.
BComplex
Jun 2020
#37
Some black voters wanting one candidate and some wanting another is only a story
EffieBlack
Jun 2020
#39
It absolutely should be a given. Imagine my surprise when I was listening to a lot of people
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#70
The number one job of VP is to help the ticket win, period. Follow the data, folks
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#50
How many of those voters who prefer Warren would not vote for Biden if someone else is the VP nom?
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#53
I read every word of your post, and disagreed with your non-evidence based opinion
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#73
Numerous polls taken in the past 6-8 weeks consistently have Warren as voters 1st choice for VP
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#83
Your data either fail to refute what I said, don't say what you claim they do or are inconsistent
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#84
I think Warren and Biden will bring out the black vote and I think neither Warren or Biden is needed
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#71