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In reply to the discussion: For Biden VP, Black Democrats are torn between Harris and Warren [View all]Fiendish Thingy
(22,569 posts)73. I read every word of your post, and disagreed with your non-evidence based opinion
Your opinions are not supported by the available data.
I don't think Warren brings much to the table, since I don't think she would necessarily bring any voters to the table who aren't already there.
On the other hand, I do think Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams, Val Demmings and some of the other black women mentioned would bring out many voters - particularly black voters - who might not otherwise come out.
On the other hand, I do think Kamala Harris, Stacey Abrams, Val Demmings and some of the other black women mentioned would bring out many voters - particularly black voters - who might not otherwise come out.
Those are opinions not supported by the available data, which shows that choosing Warren would increase support for the ticket, especially among Black voters and young voters, both of whom were less supportive of the Democratic ticket in 2016 than in 2012.
If you have data (not anecdotes or hunches) showing that Val Demings would generate more support for the ticket, especially in swing states/Rust Belt states, than Warren would, please share it. I would support Demings as VP if the data showed she generated the most support for the ticket, and gave the ticket the best chances of winning in November. So far, I have not seen it.
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I believe she has said she's not interested in that role or the Supreme Court.
writes3000
Jun 2020
#2
In Massachusetts, the appointment is temporary until the next scheduled primary election,
BComplex
Jun 2020
#31
After Harris and Booker left Warren was the only still having conversation and reaching out to the
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#9
Regardless what you saw, she does have support from the AA community. And respect.
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#15
Over one article? How about all the articles that say Elizabeth Warren is the one most democrats
BComplex
Jul 2020
#93
Please don't spread the myth about Warren as VP costing Dems the senate majority
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#48
The timing of the legislation is affected by the timing of Warren's resignation
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#58
Yes, that's the point - no one wants to wait for a special election
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2020
#59
What the Democrats will NOT do, is screw up the Senate. If Biden chose Warren, I am confident beyond
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#66
A lot of the myth carriers are Democrats that are rooting for a different VP because it serves their
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#76
The poll in the OP is from May, here's a newer one from Economist/YouGov showing Harris in the lead
PunkinPi
Jun 2020
#51
Yes they are jocking position of the #1 position serving under a VP that well has the confidence of
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#67
That and the narrative also assumes that black people are so blinded by color that
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#47
It's pretty clear that there's a last-ditch effort afoot to get Biden to pick Warren
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#85
Harris would be great in AG. Warren compliments Biden weakness, we need her to go after Wallstreet
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#8
Warren just is not going to cow. But, Harris speaks up too. I love our women, lol.
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#68
Rice is not on voters' Radar, and would help the ticket about as much as Tim Kaine did nt
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#49
I am not telling any woman that it is their time to sit down and be quiet. We have been told that
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#20
Another reason I really like Warren is she excites our young people. I am around lots of 20 somethin
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#69
That's great for a presidential candidate, but it's irrelevant and even a demerit for a VP nom
EffieBlack
Jun 2020
#87
In my opinion it's Kamala's gig to lose. She just ticks too many boxes to be passed over.
Seasider
Jun 2020
#23
Kamala's just not that popular. I'm glad she's on our side, but I don't care for her.
BComplex
Jun 2020
#37
Some black voters wanting one candidate and some wanting another is only a story
EffieBlack
Jun 2020
#39
It absolutely should be a given. Imagine my surprise when I was listening to a lot of people
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#70
The number one job of VP is to help the ticket win, period. Follow the data, folks
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#50
How many of those voters who prefer Warren would not vote for Biden if someone else is the VP nom?
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#53
I read every word of your post, and disagreed with your non-evidence based opinion
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#73
Numerous polls taken in the past 6-8 weeks consistently have Warren as voters 1st choice for VP
Fiendish Thingy
Jun 2020
#83
Your data either fail to refute what I said, don't say what you claim they do or are inconsistent
StarfishSaver
Jun 2020
#84
I think Warren and Biden will bring out the black vote and I think neither Warren or Biden is needed
LizBeth
Jun 2020
#71