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(14,704 posts) Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:43 AM Jul 2020

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Judge in Roger Stone's case would like to see Trump's commutation order [View all]

Zoe Tillman @ZoeTillman (Buzz Feed)

The judge in Roger Stone's case would like to see Trump's commutation order — she wants clarification about whether it only keeps him out of prison, or if it affects the terms of supervised release that she imposed at sentencing as well.

10:35 AM · Jul 13, 2020

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Joyce Alene (U of Alabama Law Professor|, MSNBC Contributor, Obama US Atty in B'ham)

I was wondering about this this morning. Theoretically, even with commutation, if Stone violates the terms of his supervised release, the judge could be able to consider revoking it & return him to custody. An interesting possible implication of this being commutation, not pardon

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Judge in Roger Stone's case would like to see Trump's commutation order [View all] fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 OP

What are the chances that there isn't one? fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #1

The judge is smart. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #3

No paperwork has been filed thusfar. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #4

With no order in place shouldn't he be imprisoned Tomorrow? nt. BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #47

Hmmmmm Me. Jul 2020 #2

I agree, especially knowing Stone can't behave himself. dmr Jul 2020 #38

Double Yep Me. Jul 2020 #41

Gooooood! greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #5

She requests the order because There Is None. Budi Jul 2020 #6

Plenty of time for Barr to concoct one if it doesn't exist gratuitous Jul 2020 #7

I remember reading Stone asked, specifically, for a commutation. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #13

I think that's what he said in the Howard Fineman interview leftieNanner Jul 2020 #18

I think you're right. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #19

I think she can on the day he is due to report, put out an arrest warrant in absence of paperwork Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #24

I like this. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #42

He would be due tomorrow. lastlib Jul 2020 #43

So that means he goes to jail tomorrow until the proper paperwork is filed Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #8

Ya think today Barr's doing a quickie order with an 'adjusted' date? Budi Jul 2020 #17

The reasoning given in the press release included COVID related safety concerns greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #29

"COVID related safety concerns". Their go-to excuse. Budi Jul 2020 #44

yes, it's total bullshit, to be sure greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #46

K&R UTUSN Jul 2020 #9

They should get Stone and lock him up unless they provide it at once. duforsure Jul 2020 #10

That would make my day! fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #11

K & R malaise Jul 2020 #12

There isn't one ScratchCat Jul 2020 #14

RUN Barr Barr, RUN not_the_one Jul 2020 #15

Confusing. Does this mean if there is no commutation order that based on Judge Berman's question Ninga Jul 2020 #16

He can pardon or commute at will, but you have to actually file paperwork. You don't wave a wand greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #20

Donald Dumbass will send her a photocopy of a Monopoly 'Get Out of Jail Free' card. WyattKansas Jul 2020 #21

Brilliant! Mme. Defarge Jul 2020 #31

I wonder what ManaFart is thinking these days. SayItLoud Jul 2020 #22

What is the reason Trump choose commutation rather than Pardon in the first place?? cbdo2007 Jul 2020 #23

With a commutation Stone can still assert the fifth amendment. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #26

Possibly Nasruddin Jul 2020 #36

He could only invoke the fifth about testimony outside the boundry of the pardon. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #37

Because Putin or Stone ordered him to, what their reasons are I have no idea. Alex4Martinez Jul 2020 #27

Yes, dotard commuted his prison sentence, not his supervised release "sentence".... George II Jul 2020 #25

So can they now just draft an executive order that covers all the bases, sign and hand it over? cayugafalls Jul 2020 #28

How they justify clemency for the supervised release (probation) and $20,000 fine is a mystery greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #30

Thank you for that information! cayugafalls Jul 2020 #32

That's true, of course greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #34

WELL, CONSIDERING... louzke9 Jul 2020 #33

Stone's commutation is not going down well bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #35

Excellent Atlantic article; thanks for that. crickets Jul 2020 #49

Our Good Judges mozan Jul 2020 #39

Judge Amy Berman Jackson is a bulldog & she's not letting go. A hero for this dark age. nt Hekate Jul 2020 #40

Pardon Admission of Guilt Desert_Leslie Jul 2020 #45

Good for her Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #48

He can't even commit crimes right chriscan64 Jul 2020 #50