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Tom Rinaldo

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5. Of course that was a LIE, one that was strategically manipulated for maximum damage to her

Reply to still_one (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:53 AM

Jul 2020

My OP intentionally does not address how and by whom negative impressions were fostered onto Clinton. Nor, for that matter, does it address how adverse publicity over Trump's pussy grabbing tape affected him. It isn't relevant to the point I was making. For this discussion what is relevant is that both Trump and Clinton had overall negative public approval ratings in the weeks before the election. We both agree that Trump fully earned his negative ratings personally, while in Hillary's case overt sexism and decades of GOP attacks on her took an unfair toll. Be that as it may, to the general public Clinton was overall perceived as more of a known quantity than Trump, even if most of what they thought they knew about her were total lies.

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In 2016 Hillary had the mantle of the so called "Known Quantity" in the race. [View all] Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 OP

You knocked this one out of the park. K&R Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #1

Thanks. Our goal now has to be the total repudiation of everything Trump stands for Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #2

11 days before the election Comey sent a letter to the republicans in Congress, and for the still_one Jul 2020 #3

The E-Mail Letter Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #4

Of course Trump is counting on something like that Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #7

One major difference this time Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #19

I think that's baked into his core support, it's largely how he manages to hold onto them Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #20

Same experience I had at the phone banking center I was at still_one Jul 2020 #9

"stayed home" H2O Man Jul 2020 #13

Just for the Ha-ha's, Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #21

Of course that was a LIE, one that was strategically manipulated for maximum damage to her Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #5

I understand still_one Jul 2020 #11

As my old Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #23

Exactly. The timing of Comey's letter, and the "reopening" of the so-called investigation, was not StevieM Jul 2020 #25

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2020 #6

I'm not sure I agree Trump was an 'unknown quantity'. Aristus Jul 2020 #8

That is true. There really wansn't anything unknown about him. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #12

Relatively? For most people compraed to Hillary Clinton? Of course he was. Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #14

Unless those with minimal competence had something to gain from Trump's incompetence. Aristus Jul 2020 #15

True. And I will freely admit that even I didn't expect them to be this complicit Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #17

I never understand that. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #10

Trump has been a tabloid celebrity since the eighties. He's a known quantity. betsuni Jul 2020 #16

In a binary face off, which is what a presidential election is, he was the lesser known quantity.n/t Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #18

Trump was a well known "outsider" ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #22

Did I say he was unknown figure? No I did not. Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #24