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Proud Liberal Dem

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48. Good for her

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:55 PM

Jul 2020

in asking to the see the fine print. I think that we got so caught up in the fog of outrage over it that even we didn't even think to see if this was real or not, totally disregarding how much of an attention-seeking lunatic and con artist Trump is. Granted, they'll probably produce something in writing NOW that purports to address the issue but it is good that the Judge is calling him on the mat about Stone.

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Judge in Roger Stone's case would like to see Trump's commutation order [View all] fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 OP

What are the chances that there isn't one? fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #1

The judge is smart. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #3

No paperwork has been filed thusfar. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #4

With no order in place shouldn't he be imprisoned Tomorrow? nt. BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #47

Hmmmmm Me. Jul 2020 #2

I agree, especially knowing Stone can't behave himself. dmr Jul 2020 #38

Double Yep Me. Jul 2020 #41

Gooooood! greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #5

She requests the order because There Is None. Budi Jul 2020 #6

Plenty of time for Barr to concoct one if it doesn't exist gratuitous Jul 2020 #7

I remember reading Stone asked, specifically, for a commutation. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #13

I think that's what he said in the Howard Fineman interview leftieNanner Jul 2020 #18

I think you're right. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #19

I think she can on the day he is due to report, put out an arrest warrant in absence of paperwork Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #24

I like this. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #42

He would be due tomorrow. lastlib Jul 2020 #43

So that means he goes to jail tomorrow until the proper paperwork is filed Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #8

Ya think today Barr's doing a quickie order with an 'adjusted' date? Budi Jul 2020 #17

The reasoning given in the press release included COVID related safety concerns greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #29

"COVID related safety concerns". Their go-to excuse. Budi Jul 2020 #44

yes, it's total bullshit, to be sure greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #46

K&R UTUSN Jul 2020 #9

They should get Stone and lock him up unless they provide it at once. duforsure Jul 2020 #10

That would make my day! fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #11

K & R malaise Jul 2020 #12

There isn't one ScratchCat Jul 2020 #14

RUN Barr Barr, RUN not_the_one Jul 2020 #15

Confusing. Does this mean if there is no commutation order that based on Judge Berman's question Ninga Jul 2020 #16

He can pardon or commute at will, but you have to actually file paperwork. You don't wave a wand greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #20

Donald Dumbass will send her a photocopy of a Monopoly 'Get Out of Jail Free' card. WyattKansas Jul 2020 #21

Brilliant! Mme. Defarge Jul 2020 #31

I wonder what ManaFart is thinking these days. SayItLoud Jul 2020 #22

What is the reason Trump choose commutation rather than Pardon in the first place?? cbdo2007 Jul 2020 #23

With a commutation Stone can still assert the fifth amendment. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #26

Possibly Nasruddin Jul 2020 #36

He could only invoke the fifth about testimony outside the boundry of the pardon. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #37

Because Putin or Stone ordered him to, what their reasons are I have no idea. Alex4Martinez Jul 2020 #27

Yes, dotard commuted his prison sentence, not his supervised release "sentence".... George II Jul 2020 #25

So can they now just draft an executive order that covers all the bases, sign and hand it over? cayugafalls Jul 2020 #28

How they justify clemency for the supervised release (probation) and $20,000 fine is a mystery greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #30

Thank you for that information! cayugafalls Jul 2020 #32

That's true, of course greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #34

WELL, CONSIDERING... louzke9 Jul 2020 #33

Stone's commutation is not going down well bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #35

Excellent Atlantic article; thanks for that. crickets Jul 2020 #49

Our Good Judges mozan Jul 2020 #39

Judge Amy Berman Jackson is a bulldog & she's not letting go. A hero for this dark age. nt Hekate Jul 2020 #40

Pardon Admission of Guilt Desert_Leslie Jul 2020 #45

Good for her Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #48

He can't even commit crimes right chriscan64 Jul 2020 #50