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In reply to the discussion: Remember when I said the mandatory health insurance provision in the ACA was bad news? [View all]CreekDog
(46,192 posts)101. community rating, which hasn't taken effect yet (nor has the mandate)
will mean that everybody's rates are the same as their community and their age bracket.
so in a community, everyone's increase will be the same.
again, i'm getting weary of your continued attempts to lie about the law.
your lies must mean that you don't believe you can convince us of your point by telling the truth.
hmmmm.
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Remember when I said the mandatory health insurance provision in the ACA was bad news? [View all]
Zalatix
Sep 2012
OP
I don't know where you pulled that from, not even left field- out in parking lot C maybe?
snooper2
Sep 2012
#70
You mean a mandatory purchase law that originally was proposed by the Heritage Foundation
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#97
tell us what the tax penalty is for not having insurance on September 19, 2012?
CreekDog
Sep 2012
#98
Yes, some got rebate checks, at least one got dinged 10% instead. I am willing to bet
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#114
Again, you read "the fucking law" but you just don't comprehend. Let's see if you comprehend math?
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#145
Completely unrelated to the post you were responding to ... Really ...
1StrongBlackMan
Sep 2012
#127
So the poster I cited was lying. Did you make sure to tell them that in their thread?
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#138
I think we often rely on logical fallacies to better validate our faith in a position
LanternWaste
Sep 2012
#110
My case, as stated in the OP, is that the **individual mandate** is not going to work.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#77
You're making a selective error in logic that you'd probably not make in other situations e.g.
patrice
Sep 2012
#154
Here's one link to a NY Times story last week (but there are many others if you google)
riderinthestorm
Sep 2012
#88
Mandatory private health insurance will solve this problem. For-profit care is the law! nt
Romulox
Sep 2012
#4
Having a tax penalty imposed is not the same as being 'forced' to buy insurance.
randome
Sep 2012
#27
Buy or pay a penalty is not force? You have a strange definition of the word 'penalty'.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#32
So Democrats were wrong all these years when they opposed it? The President was wrong
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#129
So the only way out of being shaken down for money for corporate welfare is to die. Gotcha.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#65
All you have to do is look at Romneycare to find out what happens when it IS
sabrina 1
Sep 2012
#130
FAIL! When there is 8% structural unemployment, monetary stimulus by itself
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#28
No. We want people to have Health CARE. "Insurance" is a corporate, for-profit concern. nt
Romulox
Sep 2012
#10
The mandate is needed for the requirement that insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions.
Nye Bevan
Sep 2012
#24
No. Making the insurance industry part of the government will have disastrous consequences. nt
Romulox
Sep 2012
#119
That is actually what single payer is. The government becomes the insurer. nt
stevenleser
Sep 2012
#133
Um, no. Single Payer does not include guaranteed profit margins for private insurers. nt
Romulox
Sep 2012
#159
The mandate does not provide everyone in the country with health insurance. nt
NCTraveler
Sep 2012
#108
So? Health care premiums have been doing that for decades. 2012 national
sinkingfeeling
Sep 2012
#15
The OP made a specific assertion of fact, has no data to back it up, and this
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2012
#37
My health insurance went up on average 25% every year when Dubya was pResident.
auburngrad82
Sep 2012
#19
If it's so easy for them to "game the system", why are they desperate to overturn the ACA? (nt)
Nye Bevan
Sep 2012
#58
So your claim is that anecdotal evidence, the statements of a few people on the internets
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2012
#39
As soon as you walk back your implication that ACA is making things worse
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2012
#45
I didn't say the ACA is making things worse. I said the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE is making things worse.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#49
The OP said only that premiums were going up by 'as much as 10 percent'. I have to
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#38
Please see my edited post. I think the 'tell' is that insurance premiums
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#44
A Republican talking point? The individual mandate was Mitt Romney's brainchild.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#46
I sure haven't seen that. However, what do you think premiums were doing before ACA? They were NOT
still_one
Sep 2012
#56
And the Individual Mandate is a poisonous element. It was originally a HERITAGE FOUNDATION idea.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#68
No, but the law has been passed. Insurance companies are responding to that law.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#94
OK, Romney's your man. He has pledged to overturn it on the first day of his presidency. (nt)
Nye Bevan
Sep 2012
#72
Are you KIDDING ME? Romney was the guy who passed the FIRST health insurance mandate law in MA.
Zalatix
Sep 2012
#75
Um, you realize how stunningly ironic this statement is, don't you? Um, don't you??? nt
Romulox
Sep 2012
#121
Does it matter if premiums go up when the ACA demands that any $ not spent on providing care
stopbush
Sep 2012
#67
I got a notice I'm getting a REFUND because of the 85% rule. Ins. premiums go up EVERY YEAR....
Obamamite
Sep 2012
#112
I'd be happy with a 10% increase, considering it has gone up more than that annually for decades.
Hoyt
Sep 2012
#115
This title infuriates me and that "we" are even engaging with this, uh, objectivist, is offensive.
cr8tvlde
Sep 2012
#126