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PoindexterOglethorpe

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46. Not sure what kind of connections your friends have,

Sun Aug 23, 2020, 01:19 PM

Aug 2020

but if NZ isn't letting any non-citizens in at all, until that changes, you aren't going to get in. Do lots of research. Most countries have good information on line about what it takes to move there, become a permanent resident, obtain citizenship.

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I am seriously thinking of leaving the country if He is re-elected [View all] PCIntern Aug 2020 OP

Given how disease-ridden we are here, murielm99 Aug 2020 #1

Yes PCIntern Aug 2020 #5

Israel has a nationalist government too. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #22

Nationalism is inherent in the very idea of a "Jewish state" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2020 #86

DU has an *Americans Abroad* subgroup that people appalachiablue Aug 2020 #61

I wish that was an option for me but even if it was, Canada's border is closed. Siwsan Aug 2020 #2

We're in the same boat. MurrayDelph Aug 2020 #21

My maternal grandfather immigrated from somewhere in eastern Europe Siwsan Aug 2020 #26

Did your dad renounce his citizenship before you were born? Mariana Aug 2020 #100

Sometimes I think Canada isn't far enough away. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2020 #24

Us too. lark Aug 2020 #3

Right now NZ isn't letting anyone in who isn't already a citizen. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #13

I know we'd have to guarantine for 3 weeks. lark Aug 2020 #16

Not sure what kind of connections your friends have, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #46

We most likely will end up Meowmee Aug 2020 #4

I am so jelly! In my next life I'm going to be Canadian. You guys are the best! OMGWTF Aug 2020 #51

Wish you could be🤗 Meowmee Aug 2020 #105

Don't pack your bags just yet. I don't think it's likely. lpbk2713 Aug 2020 #6

Thank you for that. We need some postive thinking here. It's not all gloom & doom yet... Illumination Aug 2020 #48

I think the Postal Service sabotage is enough Castiel Aug 2020 #112

I know how you feel. I am to old to leave now, but I felt the marybourg Aug 2020 #7

If he's re-elected AND we do not take back the Senate and keep the House, LaMouffette Aug 2020 #8

I think if it steals another election, there will be a great schism WheelWalker Aug 2020 #9

They would simply start a civil war and occupy blue states DSandra Aug 2020 #40

There are a lot of liberals with guns. Castiel Aug 2020 #113

nuking the west coast would be pretty stupid Squidly Aug 2020 #128

I told my brother that if Trump wins, we're leaving the country for four years. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2020 #63

He's not a legitimate president now. Talk of him winning (again) is a non sequitur. WheelWalker Aug 2020 #84

Correction. If Fat Donnie cheats his way into the WH again, we're taking a four year vacation. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2020 #139

I definitely understand. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #10

Absolutely! Everyone should have a plan (or maybe several). Illumination Aug 2020 #54

Kudos to you and anyone else who chooses to leave. This is no way to live Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #11

Have you seen the list of countries PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #12

Here's their list of 14-day quarantine countries. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #15

Useful info. Thanks for the link! Illumination Aug 2020 #55

Exactly. Where you gonna go? MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #133

I moved to BC in 2012, haven't regretted a single day Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #14

I should have left for Canada years ago. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #17

I just retired last year, and draw on my SS Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #23

Seriously?! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #28

I get my Social Security deposited directly into my French bank account. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #30

If I remember correctly you are in Lyon? One of my favorite cities in Europe. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #98

We're in Aix-en-Provence. With Covid getting a visa right now is difficult. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #125

Me and my family are considering France Castiel Aug 2020 #115

We're in Aix-en-Provence. With Covid getting a visa right now is difficult. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #126

Interesting thanks. Castiel Aug 2020 #138

They probably had a good defined benefit pension at Mitsubishi? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #42

For now Traildogbob Aug 2020 #43

Can you take in an American orphan? Illumination Aug 2020 #57

Sorry, but I can put you in touch with a good immigration lawyer nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #58

Actually, Fiendish Thingy I was joking. However, who knows about the future! Care to share? Illumination Aug 2020 #60

I know...check your messages nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #65

Thank you! Illumination Aug 2020 #69

Why should I be the one who has to leave? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #18

I'm not leaving but I might sell everything and live in an RV Buckeyeblue Aug 2020 #19

I have thought about that too in the past. FM123 Aug 2020 #20

Several years ago an acquaintance of mine moved to Panama. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #79

Yes, that's true. Each of those countries had specific requirements to establish residency. FM123 Aug 2020 #87

I have a permanent resident visa from Panama stamped in my expired US passport. mnhtnbb Aug 2020 #132

Hubs and I would love to live in Donegal, Ireland but we're too dang old to make such a move! cornball 24 Aug 2020 #25

Not to be personal, but how old are you? We made the first tentative jump to France in 2017 GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #33

Hubs is 85 and I am 78-certified old coots! I just found my dream home online in Donegal- cornball 24 Aug 2020 #83

That's a tough call. Though I have a friend here who was 79 when she moved to France 3 yrs ago. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #88

Ireland or Scotland are top on my list Castiel Aug 2020 #116

Good luck to you. You may want to make the move overseas even if sanity returns. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #27

True. I knew that. PCIntern Aug 2020 #29

My BiL is Conservadox, lives in Jerusalem and he hates Mango Mussolini. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #34

That's great and all. Good luck, but remember Politicub Aug 2020 #31

Easier said than done ashredux Aug 2020 #32

Your one of the lucky ones DSandra Aug 2020 #35

It is also very possible as a student. nt Celerity Aug 2020 #129

Trump rso Aug 2020 #36

Great point! One person here asked why HE has to leave!? I'm thinking people are very Illumination Aug 2020 #74

I would too BUT elleng Aug 2020 #37

Are we going to be allowed? AwakeAtLast Aug 2020 #38

Upthread there are several posts by people who've checked appalachiablue Aug 2020 #53

My partner and I started our expat planning before 2016 sanatanadharma Aug 2020 #39

Dementia bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #41

You'll be part of a mass exodus, I'm sure. Native Aug 2020 #44

Since no one wants us, this is going to be more difficult lettucebe Aug 2020 #45

I'm right there with you LostinRed Aug 2020 #47

Well, it's sad when you hear this that I'll leave the Country etc. etc. etc. I'd like to think that SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #49

There isn't a country that I can afford that offers what I have here. Kaleva Aug 2020 #50

yep llashram Aug 2020 #52

I admit. I do think about Ireland every so often. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2020 #56

I know it's great to be prepared but should we focus on winning until Nov? AlexSFCA Aug 2020 #59

He will not be re-elected. There are more of us and we are coming to reclaim our country Brentar Aug 2020 #62

I would not mind leaving if he was re-elected..The only thing helpisontheway Aug 2020 #64

I would. moondust Aug 2020 #66

Costa Rica, Belieze, Canada, South Viet Nam ... marble falls Aug 2020 #67

Canada is pretty strict about who they let in. Kaleva Aug 2020 #89

See ya' in Belize! nt flamin lib Aug 2020 #68

I would move to a bluer state or region. roamer65 Aug 2020 #70

Easier to surrender than fight zaj Aug 2020 #71

Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Aug 2020 #75

Some things aren't worth fighting for. Mariana Aug 2020 #123

A Third Great Migration will happen. djacq Aug 2020 #72

The wife and I are looking at some acreage on Canadian border. Missn-Hitch Aug 2020 #73

I'll carry your bags. n/t Harker Aug 2020 #76

Few places are letting us in these days Warpy Aug 2020 #77

I waver Rorey Aug 2020 #78

Y'all do know that Medicare won't Pay for your treatment in a foreign country? raccoon Aug 2020 #80

Yeah shanti Aug 2020 #108

If someone resides in a country with a real health care system Mariana Aug 2020 #122

I was hoping to be an expat. BBbats Aug 2020 #81

So disappointing about Philly environs you describe.. appalachiablue Aug 2020 #97

67 is not elderly. Senior citizen, yeah. Elderly, no. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #135

I would do the same if younger Martin Eden Aug 2020 #82

Damn, It seems that a lot of good Democrats are jumping ship. panader0 Aug 2020 #85

As soon as my parents pass, we are leaving essme Aug 2020 #90

Panama... Pensionado Visa, retired gringo live like king. Baked Potato Aug 2020 #91

To be fair, "we" didn't do it last time. DFW Aug 2020 #92

I've seriously thought about Guam maxrandb Aug 2020 #93

Kick appalachiablue Aug 2020 #94

I would never let that fascist piece of shit run me out of my own country Skittles Aug 2020 #95

I wish I had the means to leave Dukkha Aug 2020 #96

I think you are not alone... jimlup Aug 2020 #99

Serious question... who is taking Americans? KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #101

Do what I did. I made the promise in 2016 GusBob Aug 2020 #102

We'll probably go to the UK. Mariana Aug 2020 #103

You're so lucky. Castiel Aug 2020 #117

If the UK hadn't Brexited, it would be higher on my list Silent3 Aug 2020 #118

I wish the UK hadn't Brexited. Mariana Aug 2020 #120

Me too. Already looking up places. ecstatic Aug 2020 #104

LEAVE, IT'S THE COURAGEOUS THING TO DO Demonaut Aug 2020 #106

He who runs away lives to run away another day. PCIntern Aug 2020 #107

intercine protesting Demonaut Aug 2020 #109

You assume borders will be open to you. Stinky The Clown Aug 2020 #110

I've been researching how to leave as well Castiel Aug 2020 #111

When I was doing my research, you had to be in a field like a health professional or an engineer... DSandra Aug 2020 #130

The USA isn't family. It's just a job. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #114

We hear this every four years. You may well leave if he wins, but 99.9% (at least) of those who say Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #119

You're right, of course, but I think this time the numbers might be a bit higher Silent3 Aug 2020 #121

Trump and the Republicans are SOOO close to ending democracy now DSandra Aug 2020 #134

There's not going to be a bloody revolution. Christianity will not become our official relgion. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #136

Trump rules with impunity, and the Republicans have been working on destroying democracy... DSandra Aug 2020 #137

Mine wouldn't be a permanent move, more of a series Totally Tunsie Aug 2020 #124

If you have done your homework in advance, then follow your inclinations DFW Aug 2020 #127

My husband and I have talked about this periodically since 2000. MoonRiver Aug 2020 #131