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Given how disease-ridden we are here, murielm99 Aug 2020 #1
Yes PCIntern Aug 2020 #5
Israel has a nationalist government too. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #22
Nationalism is inherent in the very idea of a "Jewish state" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Aug 2020 #86
DU has an *Americans Abroad* subgroup that people appalachiablue Aug 2020 #61
I wish that was an option for me but even if it was, Canada's border is closed. Siwsan Aug 2020 #2
We're in the same boat. MurrayDelph Aug 2020 #21
My maternal grandfather immigrated from somewhere in eastern Europe Siwsan Aug 2020 #26
Did your dad renounce his citizenship before you were born? Mariana Aug 2020 #100
Sometimes I think Canada isn't far enough away. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2020 #24
Us too. lark Aug 2020 #3
Right now NZ isn't letting anyone in who isn't already a citizen. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #13
I know we'd have to guarantine for 3 weeks. lark Aug 2020 #16
Not sure what kind of connections your friends have, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #46
We most likely will end up Meowmee Aug 2020 #4
I am so jelly! In my next life I'm going to be Canadian. You guys are the best! OMGWTF Aug 2020 #51
Wish you could be🤗 Meowmee Aug 2020 #105
Don't pack your bags just yet. I don't think it's likely. lpbk2713 Aug 2020 #6
Thank you for that. We need some postive thinking here. It's not all gloom & doom yet... Illumination Aug 2020 #48
I think the Postal Service sabotage is enough Castiel Aug 2020 #112
I know how you feel. I am to old to leave now, but I felt the marybourg Aug 2020 #7
If he's re-elected AND we do not take back the Senate and keep the House, LaMouffette Aug 2020 #8
I think if it steals another election, there will be a great schism WheelWalker Aug 2020 #9
They would simply start a civil war and occupy blue states DSandra Aug 2020 #40
There are a lot of liberals with guns. Castiel Aug 2020 #113
nuking the west coast would be pretty stupid Squidly Aug 2020 #128
I told my brother that if Trump wins, we're leaving the country for four years. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2020 #63
He's not a legitimate president now. Talk of him winning (again) is a non sequitur. WheelWalker Aug 2020 #84
Correction. If Fat Donnie cheats his way into the WH again, we're taking a four year vacation. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2020 #139
I definitely understand. Mike 03 Aug 2020 #10
Absolutely! Everyone should have a plan (or maybe several). Illumination Aug 2020 #54
Kudos to you and anyone else who chooses to leave. This is no way to live Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #11
Have you seen the list of countries PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #12
Here's their list of 14-day quarantine countries. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #15
Useful info. Thanks for the link! Illumination Aug 2020 #55
Exactly. Where you gonna go? MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #133
I moved to BC in 2012, haven't regretted a single day Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #14
I should have left for Canada years ago. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #17
I just retired last year, and draw on my SS Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #23
Seriously?! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #28
I get my Social Security deposited directly into my French bank account. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #30
If I remember correctly you are in Lyon? One of my favorite cities in Europe. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #98
We're in Aix-en-Provence. With Covid getting a visa right now is difficult. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #125
Me and my family are considering France Castiel Aug 2020 #115
We're in Aix-en-Provence. With Covid getting a visa right now is difficult. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #126
Interesting thanks. Castiel Aug 2020 #138
They probably had a good defined benefit pension at Mitsubishi? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #42
For now Traildogbob Aug 2020 #43
Can you take in an American orphan? Illumination Aug 2020 #57
Sorry, but I can put you in touch with a good immigration lawyer nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #58
Actually, Fiendish Thingy I was joking. However, who knows about the future! Care to share? Illumination Aug 2020 #60
I know...check your messages nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2020 #65
Thank you! Illumination Aug 2020 #69
Why should I be the one who has to leave? Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #18
I'm not leaving but I might sell everything and live in an RV Buckeyeblue Aug 2020 #19
I have thought about that too in the past. FM123 Aug 2020 #20
Several years ago an acquaintance of mine moved to Panama. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #79
Yes, that's true. Each of those countries had specific requirements to establish residency. FM123 Aug 2020 #87
I have a permanent resident visa from Panama stamped in my expired US passport. mnhtnbb Aug 2020 #132
Hubs and I would love to live in Donegal, Ireland but we're too dang old to make such a move! cornball 24 Aug 2020 #25
Not to be personal, but how old are you? We made the first tentative jump to France in 2017 GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #33
Hubs is 85 and I am 78-certified old coots! I just found my dream home online in Donegal- cornball 24 Aug 2020 #83
That's a tough call. Though I have a friend here who was 79 when she moved to France 3 yrs ago. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #88
Ireland or Scotland are top on my list Castiel Aug 2020 #116
Good luck to you. You may want to make the move overseas even if sanity returns. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #27
True. I knew that. PCIntern Aug 2020 #29
My BiL is Conservadox, lives in Jerusalem and he hates Mango Mussolini. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #34
That's great and all. Good luck, but remember Politicub Aug 2020 #31
Easier said than done ashredux Aug 2020 #32
Your one of the lucky ones DSandra Aug 2020 #35
It is also very possible as a student. nt Celerity Aug 2020 #129
Trump rso Aug 2020 #36
Great point! One person here asked why HE has to leave!? I'm thinking people are very Illumination Aug 2020 #74
I would too BUT elleng Aug 2020 #37
Are we going to be allowed? AwakeAtLast Aug 2020 #38
Upthread there are several posts by people who've checked appalachiablue Aug 2020 #53
My partner and I started our expat planning before 2016 sanatanadharma Aug 2020 #39
Dementia bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #41
You'll be part of a mass exodus, I'm sure. Native Aug 2020 #44
Since no one wants us, this is going to be more difficult lettucebe Aug 2020 #45
I'm right there with you LostinRed Aug 2020 #47
Well, it's sad when you hear this that I'll leave the Country etc. etc. etc. I'd like to think that SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #49
There isn't a country that I can afford that offers what I have here. Kaleva Aug 2020 #50
yep llashram Aug 2020 #52
I admit. I do think about Ireland every so often. n/t Bonhomme Richard Aug 2020 #56
I know it's great to be prepared but should we focus on winning until Nov? AlexSFCA Aug 2020 #59
He will not be re-elected. There are more of us and we are coming to reclaim our country Brentar Aug 2020 #62
I would not mind leaving if he was re-elected..The only thing helpisontheway Aug 2020 #64
I would. moondust Aug 2020 #66
Costa Rica, Belieze, Canada, South Viet Nam ... marble falls Aug 2020 #67
Canada is pretty strict about who they let in. Kaleva Aug 2020 #89
See ya' in Belize! nt flamin lib Aug 2020 #68
I would move to a bluer state or region. roamer65 Aug 2020 #70
Easier to surrender than fight zaj Aug 2020 #71
Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Aug 2020 #75
Some things aren't worth fighting for. Mariana Aug 2020 #123
A Third Great Migration will happen. djacq Aug 2020 #72
The wife and I are looking at some acreage on Canadian border. Missn-Hitch Aug 2020 #73
I'll carry your bags. n/t Harker Aug 2020 #76
Few places are letting us in these days Warpy Aug 2020 #77
I waver Rorey Aug 2020 #78
Y'all do know that Medicare won't Pay for your treatment in a foreign country? raccoon Aug 2020 #80
Yeah shanti Aug 2020 #108
If someone resides in a country with a real health care system Mariana Aug 2020 #122
I was hoping to be an expat. BBbats Aug 2020 #81
So disappointing about Philly environs you describe.. appalachiablue Aug 2020 #97
67 is not elderly. Senior citizen, yeah. Elderly, no. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #135
I would do the same if younger Martin Eden Aug 2020 #82
Damn, It seems that a lot of good Democrats are jumping ship. panader0 Aug 2020 #85
As soon as my parents pass, we are leaving essme Aug 2020 #90
Panama... Pensionado Visa, retired gringo live like king. Baked Potato Aug 2020 #91
To be fair, "we" didn't do it last time. DFW Aug 2020 #92
I've seriously thought about Guam maxrandb Aug 2020 #93
Kick appalachiablue Aug 2020 #94
I would never let that fascist piece of shit run me out of my own country Skittles Aug 2020 #95
I wish I had the means to leave Dukkha Aug 2020 #96
I think you are not alone... jimlup Aug 2020 #99
Serious question... who is taking Americans? KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #101
Do what I did. I made the promise in 2016 GusBob Aug 2020 #102
We'll probably go to the UK. Mariana Aug 2020 #103
You're so lucky. Castiel Aug 2020 #117
If the UK hadn't Brexited, it would be higher on my list Silent3 Aug 2020 #118
I wish the UK hadn't Brexited. Mariana Aug 2020 #120
Me too. Already looking up places. ecstatic Aug 2020 #104
LEAVE, IT'S THE COURAGEOUS THING TO DO Demonaut Aug 2020 #106
He who runs away lives to run away another day. PCIntern Aug 2020 #107
intercine protesting Demonaut Aug 2020 #109
You assume borders will be open to you. Stinky The Clown Aug 2020 #110
I've been researching how to leave as well Castiel Aug 2020 #111
When I was doing my research, you had to be in a field like a health professional or an engineer... DSandra Aug 2020 #130
The USA isn't family. It's just a job. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #114
We hear this every four years. You may well leave if he wins, but 99.9% (at least) of those who say Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #119
You're right, of course, but I think this time the numbers might be a bit higher Silent3 Aug 2020 #121
Trump and the Republicans are SOOO close to ending democracy now DSandra Aug 2020 #134
There's not going to be a bloody revolution. Christianity will not become our official relgion. Dial H For Hero Aug 2020 #136
Trump rules with impunity, and the Republicans have been working on destroying democracy... DSandra Aug 2020 #137
Mine wouldn't be a permanent move, more of a series Totally Tunsie Aug 2020 #124
If you have done your homework in advance, then follow your inclinations DFW Aug 2020 #127
My husband and I have talked about this periodically since 2000. MoonRiver Aug 2020 #131
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