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Gothmog

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29. How likely is it that your mail-in ballot won't get counted?
Fri Aug 28, 2020, 01:35 AM
Aug 2020

This is a good study that shows a higher rejection rate. I had heard that there was a 2% to 3% rejection rate but this study shows a higher rate https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/25/how-likely-is-it-that-your-mail-in-ballot-wont-get-counted/

But voting by mail has some other practical risks that few have noted. It’s more complex than voting in person, administratively speaking. As a result, those who cast their ballots by mail might be less likely to have their votes counted than those who vote in person.

In an article forthcoming in the Harvard Data Science Review, I have worked to quantify how much riskier it is for someone to vote by mail than in person. Depending on the state in which a citizen is voting, the increased risk of having your vote lost — meaning, not counted in the election — ranges from 3.5 percent to 4.9 percent.

“Lost votes” is a term coined by the Caltech/MIT Voting Technology Project (VTP) in its 2001 report “Voting: What Is/What Could Be.” Here’s what it means. Suppose a voter wakes up on Election Day, fully intending to vote, and does everything required to do so. If the intention is thwarted, that is a lost vote. For instance, she might arrive at the polls at 6 p.m. and finds the line is so long that she leaves and can’t return to cast a ballot by 7 p.m. when the polls close.

If she intends to vote by mail, here’s what might go wrong. In states where a voter must apply for a mail ballot, the ballot application could get lost in the mail; the local election office could lose the application or deny it; the ballot might not make it back to the voter, for instance, getting lost in the mail; and the marked ballot might not make it from the voter back to the local election office. Even if the ballot arrives, it could be rejected because it arrived late or lacked a signature — the two most common reasons for rejection. Finally, the ballot could have an error that she could have caught had she voted in person....

Estimating these risks is difficult. It’s nearly impossible to find hard data on whether the ballot request makes it to the local election office. I approximated this by relying on USPS performance reports, which indicate that approximately 0.4 percent of first-class mail and 0.7 percent of marketing mail fail to reach its destination within three days of the delivery standards set by the Postal Service. I assumed that 99.9 percent of the time, when local election officials do receive a valid application, they respond by mailing out a ballot. If we apply the 0.4 percent failed delivery figure both to the voter’s application for and return of a mail ballot, and then add 0.1 percent chance of it getting lost in the office and the 0.7 percent failed delivery figure for the election office’s response, this suggests that 1.6 percent of mail-ballot applications fail to deliver a ballot to the voter.


You are in Colorado still, aren't you? All of us get our ballot at least a month early by mail hlthe2b Aug 2020 #1
I don't trust Trump, I think he wants mail in votes. Throck Aug 2020 #2
What makes you think Trump won't try shit on election day? LisaL Aug 2020 #7
He will try shit. Throck Aug 2020 #8
What good is that going to do if it prevents people from voting? LisaL Aug 2020 #10
It'll be like giving the guy the finger. Throck Aug 2020 #20
I'm voting in person... Aviation91 Aug 2020 #3
Sounds like a plan. LisaL Aug 2020 #5
I requested my ballot and will drop it off at the County Registrar the day I receive it. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #12
I am going to absentee-vote in VA, which I've done before. I want to make sure my Nay Aug 2020 #28
I've asked for absentee ballot already. LisaL Aug 2020 #4
I am going to the polls if I have to fight my way in. Chainfire Aug 2020 #6
I'm in Mass, I did a mail in ballot for our primary but used a drop box Green Line Aug 2020 #9
Both are good. I pwb Aug 2020 #11
The vote that is counted...... nt mitch96 Aug 2020 #13
I think I'll risk it, yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2020 #14
Depends on your state. LisaL Aug 2020 #15
I'm early voting in person in Florida. I don't trust the screwing with mail. NightWatcher Aug 2020 #16
Early voting would have been a good option in OH, but it only allows LisaL Aug 2020 #18
I've been VBM here in Florida for years mcar Aug 2020 #17
Here in Texas, I don't have a choice Javaman Aug 2020 #19
I suspect voting by mail is safer. Jeebo Aug 2020 #21
I am pretty sure they still use a machine to scan absentee ballots. LisaL Aug 2020 #25
I will vote my absentee ballot and hand deliver it Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #22
I always fill out my absentee ballot at home & SIGN IT! Locutusofborg Aug 2020 #23
Voting at the poll XanaDUer2 Aug 2020 #24
There is a higher rejection rate for vote by mail ballots Gothmog Aug 2020 #26
yes, it is much higher, and Rump's army of goons are not only going to voter intimidate at the polls Celerity Aug 2020 #27
How likely is it that your mail-in ballot won't get counted? Gothmog Aug 2020 #29
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