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NoRoadUntravelled

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69. Thanks for this excellent OP.

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Tue Sep 1, 2020, 12:20 AM

Sep 2020

It gives me hope.

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Reasons why Trump's 2016 upset will not be repeated [View all] Tom Rinaldo Aug 2020 OP

This is a great list. It gives me hope. tinrobot Aug 2020 #1

+1 - Agreed, it also gives me hope. c-rational Aug 2020 #4

K&R, meaning only way for Trump to win is for him to cheat uponit7771 Aug 2020 #2

I agree. Laelth Aug 2020 #3

Thanks for this informative op! abqtommy Aug 2020 #5

And the one reason it COULD be repeated: lastlib Aug 2020 #6

I don't disgree about what his best shot at remaining in office is Tom Rinaldo Aug 2020 #10

This! n/t MFGsunny Sep 2020 #74

+1 Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #60

Very good OP here. gristy Aug 2020 #7

+1 K&R onetexan Aug 2020 #58

On the other hand... BlueSky3 Sep 2020 #79

Thank you DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #8

Gary Johnson and Jill Stein Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #9

National polls in my opinion need to be avoided. LiberalFighter Aug 2020 #38

State polls have changed Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #41

The Greens need to join us this time, endorse Biden. JudyM Aug 2020 #48

Is Biden over 50%? What poll? LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #66

He's over 50 in almost all of the polls Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #76

great-- I hope LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #81

Thank you! LaMouffette Aug 2020 #11

I hate that the redneck guys in pickup trucks think the flag is only theirs. llmart Aug 2020 #47

Ya know, the hubby & i are visiting my inlaws in AR, a deep red 45-supporting territory an hour onetexan Aug 2020 #59

I'm not really sure. I know 'we' really hate Trump. Calista241 Aug 2020 #12

Trump had hard core support in 2016 and he has it in 2020 also Tom Rinaldo Aug 2020 #14

Exactly...he won't win because he hasn't expanded his now shrinking base Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #18

An incumbent shouldn't be on the defense. That is a major weakness of their campaign. LiberalFighter Aug 2020 #40

On national or state wide elections WI trends blue. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #82

Uplifting, that said... NNadir Aug 2020 #13

Excellent. I have but one quibble. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2020 #15

You make great points, which cheers me up steve2470 Aug 2020 #16

Sure. He will get some 2016 non voters to vote for him this time. Tom Rinaldo Aug 2020 #17

Excellent thesis! BlueWavePsych Aug 2020 #19

Get ready for DownriverDem Aug 2020 #20

It's not going to be enough. I'm betting that The Lincoln Project and others will expose this guy GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #29

Let's hope so. Funny how we assume that if the message is a big lead, PatrickforO Aug 2020 #21

Absolutely true...and I have put the doom and gloomers mostly on ignore...they hurt our effort and I Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #22

I'm hoping turnout is high enough to completely thrash their voter suppression tactics IronLionZion Aug 2020 #23

There you go again mountain grammy Aug 2020 #24

I have been saying pretty much the same thing gopiscrap Aug 2020 #25

Just pointing out that a lot of Republicans opposing Trump now are cstanleytech Aug 2020 #26

+100000 linda52 Aug 2020 #27

He won last time by way of the electoral college. Sophiedillo Aug 2020 #28

Yes he did... cheezmaka Sep 2020 #70

Bookmark liberalla Aug 2020 #30

He also broke promises appealing to moderates on DACA, improving health care, taxing wealthiest wishstar Aug 2020 #31

Some things cannot be glazed over or lied about Larissa Aug 2020 #32

Only the cheating is what I worry about RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #33

Bingo! BigmanPigman Aug 2020 #54

Well done, Tom Rinaldo FakeNoose Aug 2020 #34

Though I share your passion I don't share your optimism Mr. Ected Aug 2020 #35

They don't live in a vacuum. tavernier Sep 2020 #75

There are a lot of Trump supporters on slow bleed right now. ooky Aug 2020 #36

I've been saying the part of more of Trump's voters have died then Clintons for several months. LiberalFighter Aug 2020 #37

The Green and Libertarian thoughts are interesting. apnu Aug 2020 #39

This election is going to be about "owning the libs" apnu Aug 2020 #42

good point Locrian Sep 2020 #80

Try not to get hit in the face when Donnie throws in the sponge. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2020 #43

I hope you submit this as a letter to the editor far and wise. mahina Aug 2020 #44

Single most important variable is independents who shifted away from Trump in early 2017 Awsi Dooger Aug 2020 #45

We were paralyzed in 2016 by ignorance and message bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #46

K&R, agree. JudyM Aug 2020 #49

Asshole pieces of shit Alpeduez21 Aug 2020 #50

In 1972 I was a 17 year old volunteer for McGovern in 3 states. MarianJack Aug 2020 #51

I saw McGovern speak in 1969 for the first time Taraman Aug 2020 #56

I was always honored that he remembered me the second time that I met him. MarianJack Aug 2020 #57

Thank you. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #52

there is no doubt dems will have more votes AlexSFCA Aug 2020 #53

We hope so ... however jimlup Aug 2020 #55

Excellent List Aepps22 Aug 2020 #61

All good reasons, warmfeet Aug 2020 #62

Great list, well thought out, but your second paragraph alone would be enough mtnsnake Aug 2020 #63

All great points --- the main thing is we don't let up LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #64

Eric Boehlert has repeatedly said the media just wants to pretend it is close because LymphocyteLover Aug 2020 #65

We Must Vote And.... colsohlibgal Aug 2020 #67

counting on old people dying never seems to work treestar Aug 2020 #68

Thanks for this excellent OP. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #69

The reason it might be repeated is Russia Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #71

Excellent analysis. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #72

I hope you're correct, but I'm not convinced you are. herding cats Sep 2020 #73

Actually I have a better understanding of Trump voters than many Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #77

I hope this is true. I am not as optimistic AllyCat Sep 2020 #78