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misanthrope

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41. It's not the Middle Ages

Tue Sep 1, 2020, 07:38 PM

Sep 2020

It's the Old South. If you've read recent works by Colin Woodard or Heather Cox Richardson then you know the Deep South's culture is based on a model designed by brutal West Indian slave lords. It is New World feudalism and was never removed from the roots of Southern culture following the Civil War. Now it has seeped out across the nation.

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If America Votes Drumpf In Again, It's Not Worth Saving [View all] sfstaxprep Sep 2020 OP

Still bears repeating: We DID NOT VOTE him in back in '16 either... Moostache Sep 2020 #1

Unfortunately, the winning the Electoral College is a win and all that matters Polybius Sep 2020 #7

I think this is the better take than "it's not worth saving"- it would mean we need radical change coti Sep 2020 #18

Plus we have states like KY, AL and TN addicted to transfer payments from larger blue states. roamer65 Sep 2020 #2

Way past time to cut it off. Initech Sep 2020 #23

But most of us will still have to live here. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #3

America had a good run of it after WWII, but politicians and others have secured themselves RKP5637 Sep 2020 #4

Yes, you can imagine America becoming like a bad third world country DSandra Sep 2020 #15

That's been crossing my mind too, America as you say, and with a stockpile RKP5637 Sep 2020 #20

They've been indoctrinated to only believe Right Wing Media... DSandra Sep 2020 #21

What is the motivation behind RW media? Money, major shift in the direction of RKP5637 Sep 2020 #34

Since Reagan, it seems that having a sociopathic mindset has been normalized DSandra Sep 2020 #35

Yes! Bottom-line: "Basically hyper selfishness and greed are killing America." n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #44

World War 3. roamer65 Sep 2020 #30

I often wonder, is America the new Germany for the 21st century with the RKP5637 Sep 2020 #61

My gut feeling is the United States is going to break up. roamer65 Sep 2020 #71

The nature of people & the country have changed for a fact. appalachiablue Sep 2020 #24

We are already under Neo-Feudalism DSandra Sep 2020 #37

Yes, much of the US is already near (or in) a bottomless pit of ruin and homelessness. RKP5637 Sep 2020 #62

Well said, I'm aware of the dismal reality & future uncertainties. appalachiablue Sep 2020 #72

Just like Rome. roamer65 Sep 2020 #28

It's a pattern! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #43

Rome, Spain, Britain and United States. roamer65 Sep 2020 #46

Imagine a country where we own NOTHING... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2020 #5

Property ownership is governed by the government... DSandra Sep 2020 #16

+1 appalachiablue Sep 2020 #25

So true Clearly fogged in Sep 2020 #54

Is Trump the disease or the symptom? Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2020 #6

Trump is a co-morbidity... Moostache Sep 2020 #9

He's a brutal reflection of a lot of America Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2020 #12

This was well stated! misanthrope Sep 2020 #40

Thank you Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2020 #74

symptom Cosmocat Sep 2020 #27

K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #63

We didn't vote him in the last time Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #8

He did not lose the election. He won it as The Constitution is written. marie999 Sep 2020 #73

He won based on an electoral system Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #76

Who knew moondust Sep 2020 #10

It's not the Middle Ages misanthrope Sep 2020 #41

I would mention the conditions and backbreaking life appalachiablue Sep 2020 #45

Once Hitler gained power in Germany the Germans couldn't or wouldn't stop him. He was only jalan48 Sep 2020 #11

No one's going to save America... DSandra Sep 2020 #17

It will take awhile but eventually we will fall. jalan48 Sep 2020 #19

So when we break apart, who gets them? roamer65 Sep 2020 #29

I was playing a game of Civ V last night. Initech Sep 2020 #52

I think Trump is capable of a lot of things we've not yet seen. He is so damn dangerous, really, RKP5637 Sep 2020 #64

I just know he's waiting for any excuse to drop an A bomb on San Francisco. Initech Sep 2020 #66

The guy is a madman, something will likely happen, eventually IMO. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #69

Yeah, and it took 12 years to get rid of him. Nt raccoon Sep 2020 #39

Yes, if Biden doesn't we have a big problem. jalan48 Sep 2020 #42

Sadly, I often think that is what will happen with America if Trump wins again. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #68

"It's Not Worth Saving" mitch96 Sep 2020 #13

I vehemently disagree. This is the greatest country in the world. I am a Patriot. cayugafalls Sep 2020 #14

LOL, so if "YOU" say it is over, it is ok????? nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #26

For me, only, my bad, should have been clearer as I felt OP was cayugafalls Sep 2020 #31

"For me" only. Stated pretty clearly in my post. nt cayugafalls Sep 2020 #32

Trump is Surtur. And his insertion of himself into our government is our Ragnarok. Initech Sep 2020 #22

I really resent how I vote, my one little vote, and then the electoral college can RKP5637 Sep 2020 #65

We should have got rid of the electoral college after Bush V. Gore. Initech Sep 2020 #67

I REALLY struggle with this. ego_nation Sep 2020 #33

I don't disagree with your premise, but we'll still be living here. raccoon Sep 2020 #36

I disagree Calista241 Sep 2020 #38

200,000 Americans are dead by because of Trump, the extra dying wont stop if he gets elected uponit7771 Sep 2020 #49

His pandemic response was bad, but every Covid death is on Trump? Polybius Sep 2020 #51

No, less 1,500 which is S Korea to our population ... we could've done better then S Korea so uponit7771 Sep 2020 #53

We are much more of a melting pot than South Korea Polybius Sep 2020 #55

The warnings came in November last year, Trump had plenty of time to stand up testing and tracing uponit7771 Sep 2020 #59

Pelosi should ... NOT ... certify Trumps cheated election uponit7771 Sep 2020 #47

He can only win by cheating. JI7 Sep 2020 #48

+1, no reality based person is going to believe Trump won on the up and up and I pray we have uponit7771 Sep 2020 #50

you are talking about the ultimate nuclear option, Pelosi invoking Article I, Section 5 powers Celerity Sep 2020 #56

I also wanted to add in about US House state delegation control Celerity Sep 2020 #58

👍 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #60

IF drumph wins it's probably Cheating, Putin & EC... electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #57

100% agree. It would also represent a polar shift on the global stage Blasphemer Sep 2020 #70

America is a work in progress. It has always been a work in progress. struggle4progress Sep 2020 #75