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Still bears repeating: We DID NOT VOTE him in back in '16 either... Moostache Sep 2020 #1
Unfortunately, the winning the Electoral College is a win and all that matters Polybius Sep 2020 #7
I think this is the better take than "it's not worth saving"- it would mean we need radical change coti Sep 2020 #18
Plus we have states like KY, AL and TN addicted to transfer payments from larger blue states. roamer65 Sep 2020 #2
Way past time to cut it off. Initech Sep 2020 #23
But most of us will still have to live here. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #3
America had a good run of it after WWII, but politicians and others have secured themselves RKP5637 Sep 2020 #4
Yes, you can imagine America becoming like a bad third world country DSandra Sep 2020 #15
That's been crossing my mind too, America as you say, and with a stockpile RKP5637 Sep 2020 #20
They've been indoctrinated to only believe Right Wing Media... DSandra Sep 2020 #21
What is the motivation behind RW media? Money, major shift in the direction of RKP5637 Sep 2020 #34
Since Reagan, it seems that having a sociopathic mindset has been normalized DSandra Sep 2020 #35
Yes! Bottom-line: "Basically hyper selfishness and greed are killing America." n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #44
World War 3. roamer65 Sep 2020 #30
I often wonder, is America the new Germany for the 21st century with the RKP5637 Sep 2020 #61
My gut feeling is the United States is going to break up. roamer65 Sep 2020 #71
The nature of people & the country have changed for a fact. appalachiablue Sep 2020 #24
We are already under Neo-Feudalism DSandra Sep 2020 #37
Yes, much of the US is already near (or in) a bottomless pit of ruin and homelessness. RKP5637 Sep 2020 #62
Well said, I'm aware of the dismal reality & future uncertainties. appalachiablue Sep 2020 #72
Just like Rome. roamer65 Sep 2020 #28
It's a pattern! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #43
Rome, Spain, Britain and United States. roamer65 Sep 2020 #46
Imagine a country where we own NOTHING... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2020 #5
Property ownership is governed by the government... DSandra Sep 2020 #16
+1 appalachiablue Sep 2020 #25
So true Clearly fogged in Sep 2020 #54
Is Trump the disease or the symptom? Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2020 #6
Trump is a co-morbidity... Moostache Sep 2020 #9
He's a brutal reflection of a lot of America Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2020 #12
This was well stated! misanthrope Sep 2020 #40
Thank you Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2020 #74
symptom Cosmocat Sep 2020 #27
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #63
We didn't vote him in the last time Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #8
He did not lose the election. He won it as The Constitution is written. marie999 Sep 2020 #73
He won based on an electoral system Miguelito Loveless Sep 2020 #76
Who knew moondust Sep 2020 #10
It's not the Middle Ages misanthrope Sep 2020 #41
I would mention the conditions and backbreaking life appalachiablue Sep 2020 #45
Once Hitler gained power in Germany the Germans couldn't or wouldn't stop him. He was only jalan48 Sep 2020 #11
No one's going to save America... DSandra Sep 2020 #17
It will take awhile but eventually we will fall. jalan48 Sep 2020 #19
So when we break apart, who gets them? roamer65 Sep 2020 #29
I was playing a game of Civ V last night. Initech Sep 2020 #52
I think Trump is capable of a lot of things we've not yet seen. He is so damn dangerous, really, RKP5637 Sep 2020 #64
I just know he's waiting for any excuse to drop an A bomb on San Francisco. Initech Sep 2020 #66
The guy is a madman, something will likely happen, eventually IMO. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #69
Yeah, and it took 12 years to get rid of him. Nt raccoon Sep 2020 #39
Yes, if Biden doesn't we have a big problem. jalan48 Sep 2020 #42
Sadly, I often think that is what will happen with America if Trump wins again. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2020 #68
"It's Not Worth Saving" mitch96 Sep 2020 #13
I vehemently disagree. This is the greatest country in the world. I am a Patriot. cayugafalls Sep 2020 #14
LOL, so if "YOU" say it is over, it is ok????? nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #26
For me, only, my bad, should have been clearer as I felt OP was cayugafalls Sep 2020 #31
"For me" only. Stated pretty clearly in my post. nt cayugafalls Sep 2020 #32
Trump is Surtur. And his insertion of himself into our government is our Ragnarok. Initech Sep 2020 #22
I really resent how I vote, my one little vote, and then the electoral college can RKP5637 Sep 2020 #65
We should have got rid of the electoral college after Bush V. Gore. Initech Sep 2020 #67
I REALLY struggle with this. ego_nation Sep 2020 #33
I don't disagree with your premise, but we'll still be living here. raccoon Sep 2020 #36
I disagree Calista241 Sep 2020 #38
200,000 Americans are dead by because of Trump, the extra dying wont stop if he gets elected uponit7771 Sep 2020 #49
His pandemic response was bad, but every Covid death is on Trump? Polybius Sep 2020 #51
No, less 1,500 which is S Korea to our population ... we could've done better then S Korea so uponit7771 Sep 2020 #53
We are much more of a melting pot than South Korea Polybius Sep 2020 #55
The warnings came in November last year, Trump had plenty of time to stand up testing and tracing uponit7771 Sep 2020 #59
Pelosi should ... NOT ... certify Trumps cheated election uponit7771 Sep 2020 #47
He can only win by cheating. JI7 Sep 2020 #48
+1, no reality based person is going to believe Trump won on the up and up and I pray we have uponit7771 Sep 2020 #50
you are talking about the ultimate nuclear option, Pelosi invoking Article I, Section 5 powers Celerity Sep 2020 #56
I also wanted to add in about US House state delegation control Celerity Sep 2020 #58
👍 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #60
IF drumph wins it's probably Cheating, Putin & EC... electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #57
100% agree. It would also represent a polar shift on the global stage Blasphemer Sep 2020 #70
America is a work in progress. It has always been a work in progress. struggle4progress Sep 2020 #75
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