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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
17. 2 points feels like a landslide in Florida
Tue Sep 8, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

I always dismiss any Florida poll suggesting a high margin either way.

But there's no question the Democratic operation is subpar in Florida, and that remedying the matter needs to be the top priority. Nate Silver tweeted last week that the national electoral landscape would be vastly different if Florida moved from just right of the tipping point to just left of the tipping point. That is exactly correct. It basically means 2 points. The GOP steals those 2 points every cycle by emphasizing Florida all year long while we attempt cram sessions in the final 2 months. It never fails. I saw a report yesterday that Biden's team just hired someone to work on Hispanic messaging. The DNC should have had that in place years ago.

However, I don't mind any poll that has Biden well ahead among independents. That's where this race will be decided. Many of the other numbers are crap, like Biden and Trump tied among Hispanics. I always emphasized that Hispanics love the presidential incumbent and that Trump would fare better there than any logic suggests. But it won't move anywhere near even. Gillum was an awful candidate yet won Hispanics by 10 points.

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Still seeing way to much cockiness and complacency here. There is no swing-state that is liskddksil Sep 2020 #1
I don't think anyone here is complacent. They are more than aware the electoral college will still_one Sep 2020 #2
I still see outrage whem folks point out that Trump has a very good chance of winning jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #5
I take that as they are worried that the election is very close, and are concerned if the still_one Sep 2020 #11
Hope you are right jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #15
I don't think this is like 2016, and most people know the very real threat we are under still_one Sep 2020 #18
I take it as rightfully reacting to vote-supressing doom and gloom. kcr Sep 2020 #31
Your inference then, is both incomplete and without substance. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #54
That poster is talking about swing states, not national polls, so your reply Celerity Sep 2020 #25
That is what I am referring to, because it will be those "swing states" that will determine the still_one Sep 2020 #34
no, we do not control the House, each state gets one vote, and the Rethugs control 26 state Celerity Sep 2020 #50
FWIW if we pick up two state delegations, we could ha e control jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #57
We need to pick up a net 3 to get to 26, which is almost impossible, given the complete rundown Celerity Sep 2020 #68
Thanks. The gerrymandering has really screwed us still_one Sep 2020 #59
So much this. NT Celerity Sep 2020 #3
no one is cocky and no one is complacent qazplm135 Sep 2020 #6
Michigan and Arizona beachbumbob Sep 2020 #7
lol. how do you know how much people are working ? JI7 Sep 2020 #48
That is bad news for Trump. He now has to work harder to win this state Yavin4 Sep 2020 #4
True, but Zeus69 Sep 2020 #8
Biden was only about 3% ahead in previous polling, and he's underperforming with Hispanic voters brooklynite Sep 2020 #13
Biden's default path is Hillary's states + PA-WI-MI. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #22
Ugh! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #9
Yep, Florinteresting..... FM123 Sep 2020 #10
Think that Puerto Rican electorate should really be focused on in Florida peggysue2 Sep 2020 #19
To get the PR vote, Biden must be willing to support statehood. Nothing else matters. OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #43
This should surprise no one Takket Sep 2020 #12
2 points feels like a landslide in Florida Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #17
This!! I was nodding my head all the through your post! OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #42
Biden and Latino vote in Florida? saljr1 Sep 2020 #14
People will tell you that there is a huge portion of latinos that love Trump. Especially Cubans and GusFring Sep 2020 #16
Sadly, those that are here want to shut out others, afraid they will lose their jobs. Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #21
I would think we would get the saljr1 Sep 2020 #33
To get the PR vote, Biden must send signals he supports statehood. Period. End of story. OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #41
Socialism, Bernie, and AOC Yavin4 Sep 2020 #27
Exactly Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #32
And yet, if you wanted to find a better Castro clone maxrandb Sep 2020 #63
Nominating Andrew Gillum was devastating in Florida Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #28
I voted for Graham and knew Gillum would lose. Then the stupid Hamilton tickets. Ugh! OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #40
Turnout Aepps22 Sep 2020 #20
I have my doubts we will win FL. Good news is we don't need it to win, they can't win without it Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #23
I honestly don't get it. WTF!?? triron Sep 2020 #24
See my post #27 Yavin4 Sep 2020 #30
I'm going with Biden +2 final MOV in FL when all is said and done BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #26
Forget about Florida Loge23 Sep 2020 #29
I'm in FL too and I give up. Our party leadership is horrible. OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #35
The race is close in FL keep fighting rockfordfile Sep 2020 #69
That's sad to hear. Zeus69 Sep 2020 #55
Thanks for this depressing thread Dem2 Sep 2020 #36
Use it to motivate you budkin Sep 2020 #38
This one has me perplexed, but also motivated to work harder budkin Sep 2020 #37
Also, if you live in a blue state make sure you vote in FL if dual residence. OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #39
Is that even possible? budkin Sep 2020 #44
Some people live in one state in a summer and in other state in winter. LisaL Sep 2020 #47
Interesting. budkin Sep 2020 #58
The legal term is domicile Trailrider1951 Sep 2020 #60
We'll win Florida, Obama/Biden won it twice. radius777 Sep 2020 #45
Obama was very careful not to offend certain sensibilities people had JI7 Sep 2020 #49
Biden is similar, in the sense of having broad cultural appeal, radius777 Sep 2020 #51
If Biden loses Florida it will be due to Andrew Gillum Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #46
Nobody associates Biden with socialism or the Sanders wing. /nt radius777 Sep 2020 #52
Why does anyone still care about that? RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #64
This poll oversampled Republicans Wanderlust988 Sep 2020 #53
Trump's painting of Biden as a radical is working on Latinos? andym Sep 2020 #56
Biden can win without Florida. I don't think Trump can... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #61
Thanks for your concern post vercetti2021 Sep 2020 #62
You're welcome Zeus69 Sep 2020 #65
I saw another poll today with Biden up 5 in Florida Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #66
It's going to be a close race in FL rockfordfile Sep 2020 #67
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