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13. Thank you for posting this - I missed Charlie Pierce yesterday.

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Mea Culpa. I take back everything I said in defense of Bob Woodward on Wednesday... [View all] Hekate Sep 2020 OP

Self-kick Hekate Sep 2020 #1

Woodward outed himself this time KT2000 Sep 2020 #2

I'm not sure if there would have been any difference even if he came out earlier JI7 Sep 2020 #3

That's my thinking as well, and it's like that moral dilemma of a Photo Journalist taking a picture OnDoutside Sep 2020 #6

hardly the same Skittles Sep 2020 #57

nonsense Skittles Sep 2020 #9

all governors were being pushed to reopen. with that story out, in trump's own words, it certainot Sep 2020 #19

+1. BeckyDem Sep 2020 #43

Sorry, but that is rationalization for a heinous act. There is no way of knowing Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #40

Many doctors disagree Tribetime Sep 2020 #64

Perhaps it wouldn't have made any difference PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #4

THIS malaise Sep 2020 #21

That's exactly my thought PO ... mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #45

It definitely would have saved lives Tribetime Sep 2020 #65

I'm sorry, but no. One man doesn't get to make that decision in a democracy Bucky Sep 2020 #66

This treats COVID 19 as a political tool. Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #67

Good piece. Thanks for sharing this, Hekate! n/t pnwmom Sep 2020 #5

The problem is that even with what they were doing, Trump got fed up with it interfering with his OnDoutside Sep 2020 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2020 #8

Thank you, Hekate. Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #10

I love Pierce but completely disagree with his thesis here ... mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #11

Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #14

Really? druidity33 Sep 2020 #16

Nope ... I think you're forgetting how many people were already saying he's playing down mr_lebowski Sep 2020 #61

I don't disagree about Woodward. Just like Bolton and Cohen, he held back 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2020 #12

I sadly agree, gab13by13 Sep 2020 #15

Thank you for posting this - I missed Charlie Pierce yesterday. GoneOffShore Sep 2020 #13

Woodward did not know last spring what the summer of 2020 would look like... Sancho Sep 2020 #17

it maximizes his sales Skittles Sep 2020 #58

I don't think Woodward cares about sales...he has plenty of work and money... Sancho Sep 2020 #62

There was never going to be a coordinated federal response DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #18

I understand some of the anger directed at Woodward BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #30

Duty to act/report is in no way dependent on status. Asking everyone to be "on the level of an Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #44

It wasn't a secret solely between Trump and Woodward DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #53

I don't agree at all BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #54

Where did you see me say "it would have changed everything?" I didn't. Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #59

whenever i see woodward, i just think of how his character was played in 'DICK'. pansypoo53219 Sep 2020 #20

I love that movie Poiuyt Sep 2020 #42

whenever i see woodward, i just think of how his character was played in 'DICK'. pansypoo53219 Sep 2020 #22

despite Woodworks motives.... quickesst Sep 2020 #23

Lots of strategic analysis here genxlib Sep 2020 #24

What would have changed in your estimation, if Woodward had "told"? CTyankee Sep 2020 #46

I don't know what the effect would have been genxlib Sep 2020 #51

The thing is -- and I may be wrong here -- "everybody" knew he knew...the pukes knew but CTyankee Sep 2020 #52

I think it is easy to overestimate how close people pay attention genxlib Sep 2020 #56

Accomplice to murder? lark Sep 2020 #25

Yes, they are both venal... Spazito Sep 2020 #26

I stand before you vindicated. n/t Hugin Sep 2020 #27

The snippet from this excellent post that captures it for me gratuitous Sep 2020 #28

More deflecting and giving Trump a pass. Let's just admit liberals suck at politics. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #29

Well the good news is in the real world it's not really being covered that way BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #31

They're smarter than liberals. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #38

Yes BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #39

Completely terrible argument. Happy Hoosier Sep 2020 #32

I understand. I'm conflicted. But given we're where we are today nolabear Sep 2020 #33

I thought DU was the safest place to express my anger toward Woodward Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #47

Sorry about the attacks. It's weird sometimes. nolabear Sep 2020 #55

Sometimes the shoe fits BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #70

hard to believe.... quickesst Sep 2020 #34

yesterday evening on progressive XM radio GusBob Sep 2020 #35

This is a learning experience for all journalists and anyone who Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #36

Only one of them was President of the United States Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #37

Why all the criticism? notinkansas Sep 2020 #41

Our experts continued to tell us that we didn't really need masks Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #48

So of course now that they know, Trump supporters are going to put their masks on correctly? LisaL Sep 2020 #50

That's exactly true. But not in the way you are saying. Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #60

He was very likely contractually forbidden by his publisher from disclosing details from the book markpkessinger Sep 2020 #49

so called "journalists" like woodward make me regret ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #63

I honestly cannot believe people are wasting their time blaming Bob Woodward DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #68

There's no telling whether Bob Woodward could have made a difference had he spoken out sooner. crickets Sep 2020 #69

We knew all along because it wasn't a secret. tavernier Sep 2020 #71

Good point DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #72