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Sympthsical

(11,124 posts)
26. Hispanics really, really aren't a monolith
Fri Sep 11, 2020, 04:37 PM
Sep 2020

Not only do you have religion and social conservatism in various quarters, but you have people coming from Central and South America who do not like even a whiff of the word socialism. Ask a Venezuelan ex-pat about their experience with socialism. They'll have things to say.

But there's always this kind of what I think of as white patronization. The idea that, "Well, Trump's border and immigration policies are bad for Latinos, so they should be against him." And I always want to reply, "Have you ever . . . met actual Latinos?" I have a lot of Mexican friends and family. A lot. They all came legally, worked hard, became citizens, and moved up economically. You know who they don't like?

Illegal immigrants. Their attitude is, "I worked hard and played by the rules. I waited my turn, paid my dues, and achieved my goal. Those people can, too."

But white patronization has this idea that there's some kind of racial loyalty, that most Latinos will automatically back all Latinos on policies and politics. It's just not so. So when people say things like, "What's wrong with Latinos?!" that is some white racial condescension. Instead of understanding how various Latinx communities believe and operate, there's a kind of, "You're brown, they're brown, why don't you have the same beliefs?!" And there's shock and confusion among white people that they do not.

Maybe we shouldn't be peddling in that so much. It's more than a little racist.

We understand this about different Asian populations (man, East and Southeast Asian populations are a massive mixed bag of politics). Why is it so hard to believe about Latinos?

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No, some Hispanic voters have a judgement problem BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #1
Is it the machismo thing? Karadeniz Sep 2020 #2
It's a lot of things BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #4
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I have to be careful here. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #11
Sure, under normal circumstances, lunatica Sep 2020 #21
Male oriented culture and huge Catholic population. I learned in 2016 the strongest red area was a LizBeth Sep 2020 #7
+1 K&R onetexan Sep 2020 #45
Unless things have changed, I think Latino men vote more Conservative, Latinas more Liberal. TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #47
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I get why the media/pundits are doing all of this concern trolling Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2020 #48
How on earth could Trump get any Latino support? Is it I got mine the rest of you doc03 Sep 2020 #55
Latinos are typically more Conservative and Catholic Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2020 #56
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Democrats have a Some Hispanics issue qazplm135 Sep 2020 #23
No johnp3907 Sep 2020 #25
Hispanics really, really aren't a monolith Sympthsical Sep 2020 #26
It's not about thinking of them as a monolith. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #27
You are focusing too much on issues Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #29
I might be focusing too much on issues. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #30
Oh, he's a racist through and through Sympthsical Sep 2020 #31
I don't think it is just whites Beringia Sep 2020 #32
Nope...not in Florida. The Castro thing hurt Sanders. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #57
I would say Democrats have done an excellent job maximizing Hispanic percentage since 2006 Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #28
This article based on Cadava's book has interesting points: appalachiablue Sep 2020 #38
Wow! Thanks for posting. I guess I need to be really worried now, huh? Stinky The Clown Sep 2020 #39
Eek. cwydro Sep 2020 #41
No, he doesn't StarfishSaver Sep 2020 #43
I lived in south Florida for many years. cwydro Sep 2020 #50
do you have a Biden problem? spanone Sep 2020 #51
I live in a 70% Hispanic ward of Chicago. former9thward Sep 2020 #52
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