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gollygee

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38. They don't really want to give up the separation of church and state.

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 07:23 PM

Sep 2012

They can't be controlled by the government, they can't be made to marry people they don't want to marry, they can't be made to be inclusive if they don't want to be, and they don't have to pay taxes. They need to think long and hard about whether they want to give up all those things.

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Over 1000 PASTORS Set To DEFY IRS, Redefine ‘Separation Of Church And State’ [View all] Segami Sep 2012 OP

Has there ever been a greater destabilzing force in the world than organized religion? marmar Sep 2012 #1

No, in fact. elleng Sep 2012 #3

stupid people using religion fries my butt. tax their asses roguevalley Sep 2012 #35

Never, though plague and drought have come close. 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #39

Fine, let them do politics from the pulpit. Just tax the hell (heaven) out of them. And nanabugg Sep 2012 #41

Bring it. They can say anything they want, but they have to pay taxes. yardwork Sep 2012 #2

They want the cake and they want to eat it by themselves. Segami Sep 2012 #4

Well you could tax investment income - and land use income el_bryanto Sep 2012 #5

why not? donations to me are taxable. robinlynne Sep 2012 #6

I don't think they are - gifts generally aren't unless the go over a certain threshold? el_bryanto Sep 2012 #9

It is 12,000 per year. robinlynne Sep 2012 #14

12,000 recieved or 12,000 given? el_bryanto Sep 2012 #18

same difference. robinlynne Sep 2012 #20

Not exactly el_bryanto Sep 2012 #46

I belive it is both, but I'm not sure. If 3 people write you a check for 12,000, you are going robinlynne Sep 2012 #49

Yes, it's income. If they don't want to be tax-exempt they can say anything they want. yardwork Sep 2012 #7

Hear! Hear! Raster Sep 2012 #10

"We could use the tax revenue" DiverDave Sep 2012 #11

Do you favor a blanket reform, or do you favor focusing on those churches who are pressing el_bryanto Sep 2012 #19

Focus on the "churches" that are choosing politics over religion. yardwork Sep 2012 #22

Tax them all Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #37

If churches are allowed to make political endorsements Segami Sep 2012 #8

Tax them, we can use the money we can do it Sep 2012 #12

Agreed. One less difference between us, the Taliban and Teheran. cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #16

at the recent Values Voters conference, that was the advice to pastors. grasswire Sep 2012 #13

Make them pay taxes. bamacrat Sep 2012 #15

fine the shit out of them.... madrchsod Sep 2012 #17

Oh god - allowing the American Taliban to preach politics guilt free... Initech Sep 2012 #21

Preach Politics from the Pulpit Blue Idaho Sep 2012 #23

Take away their Tax Exempt Status Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #24

Titus 3:1-2 FedUpWithIt All Sep 2012 #25

Does anybody expect the IRS to stand up to them? I sure don't. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #26

i suspect they will make an example of a few. spanone Sep 2012 #30

The IRS should meet their challenge... lame54 Sep 2012 #27

Don't be tax exempt and you can say whatever you want. BlueToTheBone Sep 2012 #28

they can defy the law, but they can't redefine it as far as the constitution....sorry suckers spanone Sep 2012 #29

Money talks malaise Sep 2012 #32

May they suffer the consequences! LiberalFighter Sep 2012 #31

If they ultimately win, I will found a church that I will be head of and kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #33

It is perfectly constitutional. If you don't want to pay taxes as a 501(c) org, then you must NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #34

List of members? northoftheborder Sep 2012 #36

Here is a link for the Alliance Defending Freedom Leadership Team Segami Sep 2012 #43

They don't really want to give up the separation of church and state. gollygee Sep 2012 #38

Right now, the Commissioner of Internal Revenue should be approving overtime requests... jmowreader Sep 2012 #40

And the current SCOTUS will side with them Prophet 451 Sep 2012 #42

They are essentially going to force the IRS to either enforce the law or not davidpdx Sep 2012 #44

Please sign petition fun n serious Sep 2012 #45

So why is the Westboro Bastard Cult still considered a church? HopeHoops Sep 2012 #47

Churches should be taxed. jackbenimble Sep 2012 #48