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smirkymonkey

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23. Yeah, I tried that argument on him too. Didn't work.

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:05 AM

Oct 2020

He seems to think it's all propaganda, smoke and mirrors. Even with the facts, I am not so sure he will be convinced, but it will help. If my other brother and I gang up on him, he doesn't have much of a chance. He may not back down, but he won't be so cocky about it anymore. He knows that we are both much more informed than he is.

Thank you for your input. I appreciate it!

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Difficult conversation with my brother on Covid today. [View all] smirkymonkey Oct 2020 OP

I heard a report yesterday... Jeebo Oct 2020 #1

Thank you. I believe that. I have just been unable to find any solid statistics. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #6

study krkaufman Oct 2020 #37

You Would Only Be Wasting Your Time Stating Facts sfstaxprep Oct 2020 #2

This is an "old" article - from August of this year - but it compares the death rate compared to flu Rhiannon12866 Oct 2020 #3

Thank you, Rhiannon! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #9

I ran across a detailed analysis from Johns Hopkins - with graphs - but this CNN article is simpler Rhiannon12866 Oct 2020 #11

Good article! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #55

Well, I don't blame you for having reservations about it Rhiannon12866 Oct 2020 #66

Here you go, this should help. Mariana Oct 2020 #4

Very helpful! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #10

It absolutely refutes this one lie, at least: Mariana Oct 2020 #52

Deaths are hitting 230K. Reality is the number is much higher. Here are some threads. LizBeth Oct 2020 #5

I am so sorry for the loss of your friend's mother. I don't think he understands how this impacts smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #12

I am not spending holiday with people that do get the seriousness of it. I will live to be able LizBeth Oct 2020 #13

I had this question in one of my online classes marlakay Oct 2020 #7

I believe that. I do not believe that most people in the health professions are very politically smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #14

Your welcome I am having the same problem marlakay Oct 2020 #21

I am sorry that this has had to come between you and your family. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #25

The wedding will be on zoom for those that can't go marlakay Oct 2020 #45

then they need to determine what those other causes of death are. uncle ray Oct 2020 #48

That's a good point. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #56

Does he think that other countrIes are conspiring with our media too? lostnfound Oct 2020 #8

That point alone blows U.S. right-winger arguments out of the water.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2020 #16

I mentioned that to him and he kind of quickly changed the subject. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #19

Good articles here, SM.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2020 #15

Thank you KY EnviroGuy! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #20

The CDC also has data BainsBane Oct 2020 #17

Thank you, BainsBane! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #22

Yeah... orwell Oct 2020 #18

Yeah, I tried that argument on him too. Didn't work. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #23

Intelligent people don't listen to Fux Duppers Oct 2020 #24

I always believed that to be true. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #28

SO TRUE! That's an astute observation. Duppers Oct 2020 #33

🦠 roamer65 Oct 2020 #26

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #29

Bookmarking for all these good sources. Thanks, all. Best of luck: I think the disinfo has hit every Hekate Oct 2020 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2020 #30

Just want to thank everyone for their contributions. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #31

Don't waste one more moment of your precious life LuckyLib Oct 2020 #32

Thanks LuckyLib! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #35

Here in Europe DFW Oct 2020 #34

I had heard things were picking up in Europe again. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #36

The heartlessness is shocking DFW Oct 2020 #39

Honestly, it really breaks my heart to see this. Not only in the media, but amongst smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #41

I saw something about Czech Republic getting swamped by it. nt Grasswire2 Oct 2020 #64

I take the threat to my health from this virus seriously. Worried2020 Oct 2020 #38

And you have every right to. I am glad you are taking this seriously because it seems smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #40

Lots of great resources in this thread mnhtnbb Oct 2020 #42

Thank you mnhtnbb! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #57

Have him watch last night Friday night Rachel Maddow. nt BootinUp Oct 2020 #43

That was extremely sobering and scary. nt babylonsister Oct 2020 #44

if that doesnt work, probably no hope for convincing him. nt BootinUp Oct 2020 #49

Hah! Fat chance of that! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #58

Would statistics help? Is he going to be convinced? Are you? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2020 #46

I'm not sure. If he was ganged up upon by a few of us with statistics, it might smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #59

Here's an article with facts from Scientific American eShirl Oct 2020 #47

Excellent article! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #60

Great article - thanks! nt crickets Oct 2020 #61

Just go to CDC Dem2 Oct 2020 #50

I watched this earlier. 27 minutes likesmountains 52 Oct 2020 #51

Interesting video. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #62

I like that he discusses both sides, makes it easier to introduce the opposing ideas and info likesmountains 52 Oct 2020 #65

🦠 roamer65 Oct 2020 #53

There's a vast amount of resources in this thread. Niagara Oct 2020 #54

Yes. See what I mean? smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #63

I'm sorry I didn't get time to help you SM, long day at my facility because COVID. Maru Kitteh Oct 2020 #67

Oh, Maru! Don't be sorry! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #68