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Mr. Sparkle

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23. Trump got 1 million more votes in Florida than in 2016, Joe Got 700,000 compared to Hillary.

Wed Nov 4, 2020, 07:51 AM

Nov 2020

That doesn't make any sense to me. Older voters were supposed to be abandoning Trump over covid, ex felons were allowed to vote for the first time.

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NOTE: No other developed country gets their polling THIS wrong this many times in favor of 1 party. [View all] uponit7771 Nov 2020 OP

Er ... the UK would like a word VMA131Marine Nov 2020 #1

once towards one party, not 20 yrs towards one party even weighted towards that party. uponit7771 Nov 2020 #2

It got the winner wrong in 1992 & 2015 in the Tory's favour Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #47

What other developed country has a variable of "likely voter" that is so MaryMagdaline Nov 2020 #3

The US LV voter is peered reviewed and fairly static data. On the data science side the US shouldn't uponit7771 Nov 2020 #5

There were several people that predicted a Trump victory JonLP24 Nov 2020 #10

That's not going out on a limb in essentially a 2 person race, the sampling this time was tighter uponit7771 Nov 2020 #11

I mean pollsters JonLP24 Nov 2020 #12

Cahaly is wrong, I said the polls were weighted towards Trump this time and still had 2% MOEs. uponit7771 Nov 2020 #13

chalay said one of their poll questions - who do you think your neighbors will vote for AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #14

That doesn't get the weighting that's needed, we can do better than anecdote questions. Other .... uponit7771 Nov 2020 #15

Localized cheating is apparently very effective. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #27

No other country is as polarized as the USA. joshcryer Nov 2020 #4

No, we're mid to upper mid range polarized and still fuck up the polls towards Republicans in the uponit7771 Nov 2020 #7

Give it back to League of Women Voters - didn't they have it for decades before Turdblossom? Hestia Nov 2020 #16

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2020 #17

Look at the National exit polls JonLP24 Nov 2020 #40

Stunning indeed malaise Nov 2020 #6

Last 20 year's result also correlate with the rise of Putin. Tommymac Nov 2020 #19

Putin DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #42

Or suppress them with military spec precision. Suppression is Bad Vlads key vote tool no doubt uponit7771 Nov 2020 #34

I agree. Instead of having to win beyond 5% counting theft we have to push it to 9%. LizBeth Nov 2020 #8

Right ?! Then we'll still just be up .5% ... yeah, somethings wrong with somethin uponit7771 Nov 2020 #9

What other Developed Country has a Major Party that denies evolution, supports shitty gun policies JI7 Nov 2020 #18

Yup, that is the question we should all be asking. mtnsnake Nov 2020 #37

We need stealth Democrats to infiltrate Republican ranks and find out what's going on bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #20

+1, Tio Bernie (not Sanders) gives us a huge clue but it doesn't explain how wrong the polls are uponit7771 Nov 2020 #30

All Of Those Republicans From The Lincoln Project OhioTim Nov 2020 #21

Voter suppression. n/t rainin Nov 2020 #22

+1, ... and democrats and pollsters not factoring it in to the degree it helps republicans uponit7771 Nov 2020 #32

Trump got 1 million more votes in Florida than in 2016, Joe Got 700,000 compared to Hillary. Mr. Sparkle Nov 2020 #23

They tried really hard to keep ex felons away from the polls In It to Win It Nov 2020 #24

The nonsense word "socialism" has great power in Southern Florida. n/t MrModerate Nov 2020 #26

Fox has been screaming "Socialism" none stop 24/7 since the primaries. MerryBlooms Nov 2020 #48

In some of the swampier places I post... MrModerate Nov 2020 #49

Despite all its deep math, careful evaluation of methodology, etc., polling has proven to be useless MrModerate Nov 2020 #25

Worse than useless. Ligyron Nov 2020 #36

It's not the polling. Susan Calvin Nov 2020 #28

Dishonest polls? lildDemz Nov 2020 #29

Pollsters not factoring in voter suppression tactics uponit7771 Nov 2020 #35

Polls are as worthless as alchemy. kairos12 Nov 2020 #31

Not in other developed countries this long towards one party. It like S Korea, either they're uponit7771 Nov 2020 #33

The polling is not wrong this consistantly. hadEnuf Nov 2020 #38

Voter suppression works big time and is minimized to the nth degree by pollsters and dem party uponit7771 Nov 2020 #41

Yes certainly that too, but it many instances this vote magic also seems too quick and too sweeping. hadEnuf Nov 2020 #43

"I think it is many combined." and this is the key, not to be too consistent in one place every year uponit7771 Nov 2020 #44

Questionable vote count azureblue Nov 2020 #39

Agreed. Something is very rotten. (once again) hadEnuf Nov 2020 #45

Repugs saying they're voting dem when the phone rings with a poll. edit to add. Hotler Nov 2020 #46