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Tom Rinaldo

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44. She only became the first (major party) woman nominee for Prsident after she was so designated by
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:33 AM
Nov 2020

the Democratic Party Convention. You know that. And no one is truly mathematically eliminated before actual votes are cast. Sanders endorsed Clinton before the Convention opened. Contrast that, for example, with a liberal icon like Ted Kennedy who fought an incumbent Democratic President tooth and nail on the floor of a Democratic Convention, and them sat on his hands after the convention, contributing to Carter's defeat by Reagan. Very few here have ever shown any interest blacklisting Teddy over that.

But my point is that Bernie Sanders helped steer a younger generation of potential voters into the political process. The argument here had always been, but they don't show up to vote. They did.

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Stacey yes. Bernie... Groan. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #1
In the primary Bernie Sanders won a strong majority of Latinx voters Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #12
You know what? SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #18
Thank you. It did take us all working together to pull this out... Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #23
No he didn't. He barely got a quarter of the popular votes and delegates in the primary... George II Nov 2020 #84
I said that because there were, in a way, two main phases to the primary campaign Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #85
There were only three primaries/caucuses before South Carolina, two in states with negligible.... George II Nov 2020 #86
I agree Gothmog Nov 2020 #19
Trump already had Florida from 2016 Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #33
You are wrong Gothmog Nov 2020 #53
I think Sanders deserves credit for the $15.00 minimum wage in Florida...sure Democrats talked Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #62
Bernie gave us Trump. joshcryer Nov 2020 #2
+ JI7 Nov 2020 #5
No, the electoral college gave us Trump. Just like it will give us Biden. You know how Autumn Nov 2020 #6
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #14
This is 2020 josh.You are entitled to your opinion but not your "own" facts. Autumn Nov 2020 #20
Fact: joshcryer Nov 2020 #21
Once again... thank you! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #72
joshcryer Nov 2020 #73
Sanders campaigned for Clinton way way way more than Obama did for Joe Biden! n/t Imperialism Inc. Nov 2020 #24
Yes he did but some won't accept the truth because they are blinded by hate. Autumn Nov 2020 #34
Ridiculous. That's simply not true. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #74
It took Sanders 8 weeks and 3 days to endorse her. joshcryer Nov 2020 #35
She only became the first (major party) woman nominee for Prsident after she was so designated by Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #44
Kennedy delivered a rousing speech in support of Carter. joshcryer Nov 2020 #49
My last post on this sub thread. Feel free to have the last word if you wish Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #71
And then he disappeared after the convention, not to emerge until Labour Day...nt SidDithers Nov 2020 #68
Many many weeks of valuable time was squandered. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #78
He had more important things to do, Sid. George II Nov 2020 #93
No he didn't. This is a lie that has been propagated over and over by Sanders's supporters... SidDithers Nov 2020 #67
It blows my mind. joshcryer Nov 2020 #75
"Sanders did 39 rallies for Clinton in 13 states over the final three months of the 2016 general" Imperialism Inc. Nov 2020 #77
Check the dates... SidDithers Nov 2020 #80
Again. He campaigned more for Clinton than Obama did for Biden, as I said. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2020 #81
Knock yourself out... SidDithers Nov 2020 #82
Whatever you need to tell yourself. Imperialism Inc. Nov 2020 #83
You're implying that Obama didn't support Biden, forgetting that we're in the middle of a pandemic. George II Nov 2020 #94
I can't find the list of places and/or appearances, but I did find this in the article: George II Nov 2020 #91
You seem to forget that in 2016 there wasn't a global pandemic that killed 240,000 Americans.... George II Nov 2020 #90
Thank you. I'm sick of the Bernie blaming. Alex4Martinez Nov 2020 #37
He had some help from Comey but on balance yes he did... comradebillyboy Nov 2020 #8
... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #60
Hells yes! Glamrock Nov 2020 #3
Don't forget Beto. Claustrum Nov 2020 #4
Yes, Abrams + Beto can lead this party.... nt Blasphemer Nov 2020 #10
In the future for them. Biden is leading this party in the next 4 years :) Claustrum Nov 2020 #13
Yes, Beto too, though his Texas based efforts did not this time win the prize... Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #15
Only Abrams , not Sanders JI7 Nov 2020 #7
Two names :Stacey Abrams and Jim Clyburn octoberlib Nov 2020 #9
Jim JI7 Nov 2020 #27
Fixed I do this every time! octoberlib Nov 2020 #28
There ya GO!! Cha Nov 2020 #51
Lol! octoberlib Nov 2020 #55
Aloha & Hallelujah, octoberlib! Cha Nov 2020 #63
Stacey has worked her entire political life to strengthen our party. spicysista Nov 2020 #11
Abrams, Clyburn, and O'Rourke... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #16
Exactly right. And, Mary Jane. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #43
Another way Bernie could help us - change from "Independent" to "Democrat". ooky Nov 2020 #17
Bernie caucuses with us and is already included in our count tho. NYC Liberal Nov 2020 #22
Oh well, there goes that idea. ooky Nov 2020 #26
Yes, when he isn't bashing us. I seem to recall a comment recently about "coastal elites"? George II Nov 2020 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #25
Yep. joshcryer Nov 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author ooky Nov 2020 #30
They didn't need Bernie for that though. They've used that against us long before Bernie ooky Nov 2020 #32
Bernie IS the poster child for 'Democratic' Socialism. My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #36
"Democratic" Socialism, yes. ooky Nov 2020 #40
And once you are having to explain My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #42
Huh? ooky Nov 2020 #46
Sanders was actually defending Castro JI7 Nov 2020 #50
I know and I cringed when I heard it. ooky Nov 2020 #57
Abrams Helped us win Georgia Willto Nov 2020 #31
Abrams is a MUCH better politician than Sanders, IMO. NT Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #38
Agree. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #39
They don't even belong in the same sentence together Baltimike Nov 2020 #41
I agree with the summation on post #39 above yours Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #45
That's fair... Baltimike Nov 2020 #56
Really. TY for the reality check. Cha Nov 2020 #48
he brought in a shedload of the more progressive voters and younger voters, & AOC did a masterclass Celerity Nov 2020 #64
I see what you did there. We aren't talking AOC who DID do a LOT Baltimike Nov 2020 #66
I only did what everyone in certain quarters (not saying you per se) does and joined them at the hip Celerity Nov 2020 #70
Thanks. They BOTH have worked their asses off for We The People. Tommymac Nov 2020 #47
Please don't tie Stacey Abrams to Bernie Sanders. Sogo Nov 2020 #52
I agree Gothmog Nov 2020 #54
I agree.. Thank you. Cha Nov 2020 #65
Tough, Stacy is a brilliant woman and she didn't mind tying herself to Bernie Sanders. Autumn Nov 2020 #69
Thank you. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #79
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2020 #98
Stacey Abrams is definitely someone to praise for her stellar work... Spazito Nov 2020 #58
Good post mvd Nov 2020 #59
I am rec'ing your unambiguously positive post on this unambiguously positive day fishwax Nov 2020 #61
I disagree. Sanders did the opposite of building and mobilizing any Democratic coalition. His was a LizBeth Nov 2020 #76
Ridiculous to group Stacey Abrahms in that way. boston bean Nov 2020 #87
+ JI7 Nov 2020 #96
I don't think Bernie helped. ecstatic Nov 2020 #88
Agree on Stacey Abrams kcr Nov 2020 #89
I don't think linking her to him honors her. Hortensis Nov 2020 #92
The only direct linkage I intended involved voter turnout from two core Democratic constituencies Tom Rinaldo Nov 2020 #97
Umhm. AA are one of the core constituencies of our party Hortensis Nov 2020 #99
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