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gulliver

(14,029 posts)
63. Medicare kind of sucks. The path we're on now is much, much better.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:34 AM
Nov 2020

Current Medicare is ridiculously user-unfriendly. You have "donut holes," crazy rules about hospitalization, no MOOP (maximum out of pocket), doctor participation headaches, drug coverage gaps, etc. If you're on Medicare and don't have at least supplemental coverage or an advantage plan, you basically don't have healthcare.

Universal health care needs to be simple: You go to the doctor; you get care. You get a prescription; the pharmacy fills it. By framing what we want as "Medicare for All," we condemn ourselves to fighting forever to get a Rube Goldberg health care prize we shouldn't even want. We also give it a name that sounds "social justice-y" and is asking for defeat and delay.

If (and it's a big if) we can get a public option in place and shore up the ACA, then we'll have the seed crystal for true national health care to grow organically, quietly, painlessly, and quickly. Call it Medicare later. It will be for all, because that's what it will be, not because we stuck the words "for all" on the end.

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Meaningless given those who said no mzmolly Nov 2020 #1
I wouldn't say meaningless. It does show a certain trend. Glamrock Nov 2020 #4
We do know what districts they are JI7 Nov 2020 #6
Well shit good on you! Glamrock Nov 2020 #8
well AOC does which makes her tweet dishonest to the core. dsc Nov 2020 #12
Exactly. mzmolly Nov 2020 #37
That can't be right gratuitous Nov 2020 #2
Don't say that too loud around here Bettie Nov 2020 #22
+1000 Celerity Nov 2020 #51
+1 aidbo Nov 2020 #34
Biden ran on "Building on Obamacare" & he got 75 Million Cha Nov 2020 #56
Never trust any Republican. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #61
They won in deep blue districts . The others were running in purple or even JI7 Nov 2020 #3
Bingo. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #7
Right! In It to Win It Nov 2020 #24
They also ousted powerful establishment incumbents in DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #35
Details.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #40
joe biden said no. how did that turnout? nt msongs Nov 2020 #5
What do you mean? W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #9
Amen! We could flip my district with a moderate popular democrat. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #30
Just look at who won the presidential primary JI7 Nov 2020 #39
Point well made. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #43
The same people Sgent Nov 2020 #50
Why is one particular health care policy supposedly the only good one? betsuni Nov 2020 #10
+1 Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2020 #13
Especially when the person most pushing for it couldn't answer JI7 Nov 2020 #16
It's a slogan. betsuni Nov 2020 #25
Ahh you don't like AOC ChubbyStar Nov 2020 #32
I'll have a mimosa! aidbo Nov 2020 #36
That wasn't about AOC JI7 Nov 2020 #38
Damn Straight it wasn't Cha Nov 2020 #53
As we see around the world, no one system is best mvd Nov 2020 #17
The point is why one particular politician's policy is the purity test. betsuni Nov 2020 #23
Well IMO an old but good one mvd Nov 2020 #26
In my opinion, people shouldn't take credit for policies and pretend betsuni Nov 2020 #45
Bernie doesn't even say that. He's just one of the main advocates mvd Nov 2020 #47
He always says it, in interview after interview for years. betsuni Nov 2020 #48
It hasn't been much discussed in the past mvd Nov 2020 #49
But it's been discussed in the past. The Clinton administration tried for universal health care, betsuni Nov 2020 #52
Well, I disagree mvd Nov 2020 #58
The ACA passed in the House with a public option, didn't pass in the senate. betsuni Nov 2020 #59
That's the one thing I don't dispute mvd Nov 2020 #64
We agree way more than disagree! Even though I don't support MFA. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #44
Joe and Kamala did not run on that. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #11
Excellent point! Biden/Kamala ran on "Building on Obamacare".. Cha Nov 2020 #55
Thank you, Cha. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #62
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #14
Now When THey Advocate For MFA Me. Nov 2020 #15
No, they never discuss the truth about how to pay for things JI7 Nov 2020 #21
THe Problem Is Me. Nov 2020 #28
their version of MFA is not like the current Medicare programme. There would be no, or if any, then Celerity Nov 2020 #46
Single-payer "Medicare for All" has strong National support pfitz59 Nov 2020 #18
And right now, health insurance is a racket Bettie Nov 2020 #19
Cheers! mvd Nov 2020 #20
Yes, in deep blue districts. And Justice D haven't won one single race in a red or purple district. octoberlib Nov 2020 #27
Cherry-picked list AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #29
With trump gone, AOC is the villain du jour around here. egduj Nov 2020 #31
I like her but she has a habit... Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #42
Over the past few years when DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #33
I like AOC, but can she pause for a moment so we can win 2 GA senate seats? ecstatic Nov 2020 #41
Especially when Biden ran on Building on Obamacare Cha Nov 2020 #57
Why would she speak the quiet part out loud right now when we have two Senate seats to try Boogiemack Nov 2020 #54
I think AOC is important for motivating the young to vote Hav Nov 2020 #60
Medicare kind of sucks. The path we're on now is much, much better. gulliver Nov 2020 #63
Some facts. scipan Nov 2020 #65
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