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JHB

(37,897 posts)
22. A big part of it is how it's done
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

With Bushco, the route to take would not have been to go straight for Bush and Cheney, but to start with the small fry (contractors delivering shoddy work, rampant waste, positions filled with people far too inexperienced to do the job they had but were chosen because political connections, etc.) in order to publicly associate Bush with a big stinking cloud of corruption. Get people pissed off at Bush because their sons couldn't use a shower without wondering if they'd get electrocuted. Once a big stink is laid at their feet, you can bring the public along for higher-level stuff.

But it's something that needs to be pushed, not just "put out there" with the expectation mainstream media will pick it up and run with it. They won't, because that would be "liberal bias." This is why the conservatives built their own media machine: to push their narratives, whether that involves advancing their agenda or defending against accountability for malfeasance.


So no, there won't be any indictments handed out on Jan. 21, but the extent of the corruption needs to be dug into, exposed, and made public. But yes, after investigations and cases made, there do need to be prosecutions. I don't share your view that we would have taken a massive loss back then if the Republicans had been publicly connected to corruption instead of being able to claim is was all hot air and politics. The same now. It's ignoring what they did in the name of "healing" that will cost us -- and it will prevent real healing.

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Trump's slogan was "law and order". NotAPuppet Nov 2020 #1
Healing DEMANDS not letting criminals off the hook. nt FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #7
again like with bush. prosecute the crimes or have the criminals come back and try again. bullimiami Nov 2020 #2
Like with Reagan-Bush too JHB Nov 2020 #26
at least Bush 1 there were some prosecutions. bullimiami Nov 2020 #28
If you don't prosecute them this will keep happening. PTWB Nov 2020 #3
That's my concern. When sociopaths think they can act with impunity spooky3 Nov 2020 #11
Let the states go after Trump soothsayer Nov 2020 #4
Hold them accountable. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #5
Isn't not prosecuting licensing crime and giving people temporary power to be criminals at rzemanfl Nov 2020 #6
I say we need to follow through with investigations, prosecution, etc. woodsprite Nov 2020 #8
IMO it is not "bomb throwing" to prosecute criminal activity Yonnie3 Nov 2020 #9
He should also advise IRS that he wants all audits thoroughly investigated spooky3 Nov 2020 #12
NO. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #10
Picking a notoriously tough law & order California AG Eliot Rosewater Nov 2020 #13
How about splitting the difference DLCWIdem Nov 2020 #14
We all hoped our institutions would hold eleny Nov 2020 #15
I've said this multiple times elsewhere, so I'll paraphrase... better Nov 2020 #16
This is not forgivable. Progressive dog Nov 2020 #17
We didn't prosecute torture and other war crimes from the Bush administration gratuitous Nov 2020 #18
The problem... Newest Reality Nov 2020 #19
If the investigations are handled totally fairly, where there are obvious crimes panader0 Nov 2020 #20
What about criminals? GeorgeGist Nov 2020 #21
A big part of it is how it's done JHB Nov 2020 #22
Without justice, kiss it goodbye, no hope beyond 2024 Ponietz Nov 2020 #23
Not prosecuting them for their crimes KatyMan Nov 2020 #24
I lean on the side getting rid of the MFers and moving on. First, no jury will convict the top dogs Hoyt Nov 2020 #25
This is one i keep going back and forth on. logosoco Nov 2020 #27
There's crime and there's political persecution treestar Nov 2020 #29
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