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tinrobot

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17. Correct. If you demand NASCAR-level pit stop speed, then you'll never enjoy EVs.

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 04:21 PM

Nov 2020

EVs will always take a bit longer. It's the nature of the beast.

Every so often, I'll rent a car and drive with gas. I actually timed myself when I stopped for fuel to see how long I actually took. It was more like 15-20 minutes rather than 5. I'd stop, go to the restroom get a snack, wipe off the windows, etc.

A modern EV takes about a half hour. The extra 10 minutes is not that big of a deal in the grand scheme. Personally, it forces me to stop and look around, which I find keeps me a bit more refreshed when I start driving again.

But if you absolutely have to get in/out in 5 minutes, then you'll have to burn dinosaurs and pollute more. Your choice.

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Electric Vehicle Myths: #1 EVs Do Not Have Enough Range to Be Viable [View all] PNW-Dem Nov 2020 OP

We need more gas stations to have electric hook ups jimfields33 Nov 2020 #1

Most EV owners charge their cars at home PNW-Dem Nov 2020 #33

I was thinking vacations where there would be stops. jimfields33 Nov 2020 #46

It's not the range that's a problem for me. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #2

Massive improvements to charge time are being implemented. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #3

Even "inexpensive" cars are very expensive to my mind. Codeine Nov 2020 #4

Go to the Tesla site, range is up to 340, new batteries will last 1,000,000 miles, and the Native Nov 2020 #5

And how much will that Tesla sell for? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #7

Updated my post re cost. Native Nov 2020 #9

Just some generic stuff about maintenance. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #12

Low Rstrstx Nov 2020 #45

Manageable as in less than $20k? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #14

I'd say yes. What I hate more than anything is taking my car in for Native Nov 2020 #20

How much longer? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #47

A 200+ mile charge now takes 30-60 minutes, not several hours. tinrobot Nov 2020 #6

30-60 minutes charging time, compared to 5 minutes or less to refill gas, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #10

Correct. If you demand NASCAR-level pit stop speed, then you'll never enjoy EVs. tinrobot Nov 2020 #17

I would question whether he's polluting more. Codeine Nov 2020 #19

Gas pollutes more, it is simply less efficient. Batteries are repurposed/recycled. tinrobot Nov 2020 #21

This has been answered conslusively Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #37

Also, with an EV you skip a lot of exposure to toxic chemicals Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #38

For me those are the best arguments Codeine Nov 2020 #43

Absolutely Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #53

That is doable Sanity Claws Nov 2020 #16

My current EV is about 8 years old. Battery is between 90-95% tinrobot Nov 2020 #18

I will check this out Sanity Claws Nov 2020 #23

You can find Rav4 EVs used Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #32

Battery life on some early model Nissans Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #35

Do you need to run them way down Codeine Nov 2020 #44

No, Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #52

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Driving an EV depends on a couple of factors, Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #30

I always figured that whatever car I got this time was going to be my last gas powered car. Initech Nov 2020 #34

Check around for local EV drivers Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #40

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Stopping every hour is just good driving sense. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #49

A myth is something that was never true. Iggo Nov 2020 #8

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Another outstanding piece of tech Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #27

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The Volt is an example of brilliant engineering Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #24

I have driven a Nissan Leaf (2012) Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #22

I think the biggest turn off currently is the cost. Initech Nov 2020 #25

You can get a new Chevy Bolt for less than $25k in many places. tinrobot Nov 2020 #29

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The real savings was buying Tesla shares. Made enough to buy many EVs or maybe their semi or three. BSdetect Nov 2020 #28

Head smack! PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #48

Before clicking, I knew there would be lots of marketing in here for petroleum powered vehicles. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #50

I have driven cross-country 5 times now in my early model Teslas Zorro Nov 2020 #51

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I agree Zorro Nov 2020 #55

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