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tinrobot

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21. Gas pollutes more, it is simply less efficient. Batteries are repurposed/recycled.

Tue Nov 10, 2020, 04:33 PM

Nov 2020

Burning the fuel inside a vehicle is less efficient than burning it in a power plant (if that is your source of power). The EV itself is also more efficient, electric motors are much better than combustion engines in that regard.

Obviously as we transition to solar/wind, maybe nuclear (I agree we need more), burning fossil fuels for electricity will become less of an issue. And as those cleaner power sources come online, EVs get cleaner as well.

These are very common anti-EV talking points. They've all been debunked.

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Electric Vehicle Myths: #1 EVs Do Not Have Enough Range to Be Viable [View all] PNW-Dem Nov 2020 OP

We need more gas stations to have electric hook ups jimfields33 Nov 2020 #1

Most EV owners charge their cars at home PNW-Dem Nov 2020 #33

I was thinking vacations where there would be stops. jimfields33 Nov 2020 #46

It's not the range that's a problem for me. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #2

Massive improvements to charge time are being implemented. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #3

Even "inexpensive" cars are very expensive to my mind. Codeine Nov 2020 #4

Go to the Tesla site, range is up to 340, new batteries will last 1,000,000 miles, and the Native Nov 2020 #5

And how much will that Tesla sell for? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #7

Updated my post re cost. Native Nov 2020 #9

Just some generic stuff about maintenance. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #12

Low Rstrstx Nov 2020 #45

Manageable as in less than $20k? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #14

I'd say yes. What I hate more than anything is taking my car in for Native Nov 2020 #20

How much longer? PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #47

A 200+ mile charge now takes 30-60 minutes, not several hours. tinrobot Nov 2020 #6

30-60 minutes charging time, compared to 5 minutes or less to refill gas, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #10

Correct. If you demand NASCAR-level pit stop speed, then you'll never enjoy EVs. tinrobot Nov 2020 #17

I would question whether he's polluting more. Codeine Nov 2020 #19

Gas pollutes more, it is simply less efficient. Batteries are repurposed/recycled. tinrobot Nov 2020 #21

This has been answered conslusively Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #37

Also, with an EV you skip a lot of exposure to toxic chemicals Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #38

For me those are the best arguments Codeine Nov 2020 #43

Absolutely Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #53

That is doable Sanity Claws Nov 2020 #16

My current EV is about 8 years old. Battery is between 90-95% tinrobot Nov 2020 #18

I will check this out Sanity Claws Nov 2020 #23

You can find Rav4 EVs used Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #32

Battery life on some early model Nissans Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #35

Do you need to run them way down Codeine Nov 2020 #44

No, Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #52

I really wanted to get a Honda Clarity but the charging times were a turn off. Initech Nov 2020 #11

Driving an EV depends on a couple of factors, Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #30

I always figured that whatever car I got this time was going to be my last gas powered car. Initech Nov 2020 #34

Check around for local EV drivers Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #40

How about a gas emergency generator on a trailer for those longer trips? Klaralven Nov 2020 #26

You can Supercharge to 80% in about 20 mins PNW-Dem Nov 2020 #36

Price depends on the market segment PNW-Dem Nov 2020 #41

Stopping every hour is just good driving sense. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #49

A myth is something that was never true. Iggo Nov 2020 #8

My RAV4 EV has a 120 mile range and we use it 95% of the time. tinrobot Nov 2020 #13

Another outstanding piece of tech Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #27

Yes, the Tesla motor means it is FAST. tinrobot Nov 2020 #31

Yes, the Rav4 have "Sport" mode Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #42

I'm happy with my Volt, but that's got gas power as an option Silent3 Nov 2020 #15

The Volt is an example of brilliant engineering Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #24

I have driven a Nissan Leaf (2012) Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #22

I think the biggest turn off currently is the cost. Initech Nov 2020 #25

You can get a new Chevy Bolt for less than $25k in many places. tinrobot Nov 2020 #29

Price depends on the market segment PNW-Dem Nov 2020 #39

The real savings was buying Tesla shares. Made enough to buy many EVs or maybe their semi or three. BSdetect Nov 2020 #28

Head smack! PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #48

Before clicking, I knew there would be lots of marketing in here for petroleum powered vehicles. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #50

I have driven cross-country 5 times now in my early model Teslas Zorro Nov 2020 #51

Also, even the basic level autopilot Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #54

I agree Zorro Nov 2020 #55

The average range of a gas-powered car is only 275 miles? That's insane! wackadoo wabbit Nov 2020 #56

My only issue is hurricanes Sgent Nov 2020 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2020 #58

Well, they don't idle. Codeine Nov 2020 #59