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Celerity

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30. It was very poor recruiting by Schumer and Cortez Masto, we had only 3 of 13 remotely flappable
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 01:05 PM
Nov 2020

races where our best candidates ran.

I had us losing Jones, but flipping 6 (so a 52-48 majority)

CO, AZ, MT, and

IA, NC, ME all 3 had weak candidates and it hurt us badly

IF Sibelius had run, we had a great chance at KS (see below)

and I was split on GA Regular (and Ossoff can still win it)


I warned for ages that Schumer and Cortez Masto did a poor, poor recruiting job, and it ended up burning us far harder than I had imagined it would

The 3 where we did run the best, we won two of three, CO and AZ, and lost in MT, partial due to Bullock being cash starved due and unable to counter 50m in late RW adverts ludicrously calling him a commie, as people pissed away over 300 million on three fantasyland races, TX and KY and SC, some of which should have went to aid Bullock, who was left helpless after leading for a good chunk of the race, and was an extremely popular 2 term governor in a red, red state. Until the last 2 or 3 weeks, I thought he would win. Gutted he did not. I maxed out to his campaign. Daines is moronic POS, one of the 5 least intelligent Senators, along with Ernst, Hyde-Smith, Ron Johnson, and Blackburn. All 5 are low, low intellect cretins.

the other 10

NC (Foxx, Stein, and especially Jeff Jackson, all far better than Cunningham, even without the sexting scandal)
GA Reg (Stacey Abrams or Sally Yates) we still may win and Abrams did huge lifting in other ways, so not irate with her at all
GA Spec (Abrams or Yates) we still may win, let's all hope so
IA (Vilsack (very popular 2 term governor and also 8 years as US Sec of Agriculture) or Cindy Axne would have been better than the weak Greenfield)
ME (Rice would have been far better than Gideon, same for Hannah Pingree, Chellie Pingree's daughter and also the ex speaker of the Maine House, the youngest one ever, and also better would have been US Dem House rep Jared Golden from ME-2, who won re-election in a district Trump carried again with ease. All three would have taken out Collins IMHO. Wild card. Stephen King, who was thinking about it, and decided not to. Also Chellie Pingree herself.)
TN (Open seat, Tim McGraw has now twice, in 2018, when he likely would have won, and then 2020 turned down OPEN seat races after promising he would run, so angry at him, especially for 2018, Blackburn was a nutter and with the Blue Wave McGraw would have taken her out IMHO, instead we ran the fossil re-tread Bredesen, who blue himself up the first month of the campaign by saying he would have supported and voted for the drunky-rapey Kavanaugh, the exact same thing McGrath did too, to disastrous effect for both of them)
KS (Open seat Sibelius was not only the only Dem who could have won, she likely would have won, it was the opinion of the major Kansas newspapers, even though RWNJ Kobach lost the primary, Marshall was weak. Very mad at her for refusing to run)

and the three reaches

AK (ex US Senator Begich refused to run, and we did not even field a candidate, instead indie Al Gross ran)
TX (Beto looked at Cornyn and passed, Hegar was weak)
KY (Andy Beshear would have been best, but he ran and won Governor. Booker would have been stronger than McGrath IMHO, and if the primary was 2 to 4 weeks later, he who have beaten her, she bollocks it from the start by saying she would have supported and voted for Kavanaugh, smdh. Adkins, Conway, and Steve Beshear (Andy's father and an ex governor would have done better as well, IMHO)

We won the two seats Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #1
Yeah I saw we keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #6
Iowa is filled with moronic mouth-breathers Bettie Nov 2020 #55
I hear you. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #57
NC and Maine Rice4VP Nov 2020 #2
I mean Collins is flakey keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #10
Cunningham if he had kept it in his pants exboyfil Nov 2020 #3
That is so crazy keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #12
Our candidate in Iowa Greenfield is a nice woman exboyfil Nov 2020 #15
That's too bad keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #17
Agreed on Cunningham. He should be forever shunned by NC Dems. JanMichael Nov 2020 #45
North Carolina felt like the best bet to flip outside what flipped. And that was it. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #4
Yes but Maine still kinda surprised me. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #9
Polls had a huge amount of undecideds. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #11
yep keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #19
good points keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #13
And several someones are going to be counting all 5 million of those ballots exboyfil Nov 2020 #18
so true keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #20
It is a painful experience for Georgia exboyfil Nov 2020 #21
oh interesting keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #28
We could have picked North Carolina, but our candidate turned out to be a LisaL Nov 2020 #41
Seems Cunningham was interested in other types of flips exboyfil Nov 2020 #47
There was a reason he reminded quite a few people of Edwards. LisaL Nov 2020 #49
It's not that Graham won over Harrison in SC that disturbs me so much, crickets Nov 2020 #62
It seems all Cunningham had to do was zip it SomedayKindaLove Nov 2020 #5
I think he would have lost anyway. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #8
He was leading in the polls even after the scandal, but I think it hurt him in the end. cwydro Nov 2020 #74
yeah keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #14
The Senate was always a long shot...we needed to win in red and more red than purple states. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #7
Right keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #16
Dems did have a tsunami DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #23
I find it odd keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #26
Media must have SOMETHING to talk about. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #22
yeah I guess keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #24
Using that analogy, I packed up my things and walked out long ago Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #59
True enough keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #60
I m very bullish on GA BlueInPhilly Nov 2020 #25
It will keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #29
Collins and Tillis were behind in the polls edhopper Nov 2020 #27
I wonder about these polls keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #31
Many of us edhopper Nov 2020 #34
The last Des Moines Register poll had Greenfield down exboyfil Nov 2020 #36
Thanks edhopper Nov 2020 #42
Tillis was not behind by much more than the MOE. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #44
It was very poor recruiting by Schumer and Cortez Masto, we had only 3 of 13 remotely flappable Celerity Nov 2020 #30
IA - We might have lost Axne's seat as well exboyfil Nov 2020 #33
yes, Axne was sort of a toss-in on my part (not that I do not rate her), deffo Vilsack or Franken Celerity Nov 2020 #46
I had us losing Jones but gaining 4. CO, AZ, ME, NC In It to Win It Nov 2020 #37
Celerity that is pretty keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #52
I have been posting on this since mid 2019, saw it comig from a mile away, but I still Celerity Nov 2020 #54
Exactly keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #56
CO, AZ, ME, NC... and a fifth somewhere to make up for Doug Jones In It to Win It Nov 2020 #32
I think MT BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #35
You're right! I forgot about MT but truthfully, I never thought we would win in MT In It to Win It Nov 2020 #40
I don't know why not? BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #48
Bullock was doing well until he got buried with 50m USD plus RW dark pool money slamming him Celerity Nov 2020 #50
North Carolina and Maine Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #38
"The election was pretty much a disaster outside of defeating Trump" BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #51
keepthemhonestO-Senate seats I thought we'd flip.... Upthevibe Nov 2020 #39
ok I'll watch for it. keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Upthevibe Nov 2020 #43
Murkowski wasn't running this year Polybius Nov 2020 #58
oh right keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #63
Both Maine and NC should have been won dsc Nov 2020 #61
right and wasn't it keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #64
actually they did kick the candidate off the ballot so they got to run a cleaner candidate dsc Nov 2020 #65
Oh did they? keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #67
yeah it worked like this dsc Nov 2020 #69
yep keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #70
I don't know about "bashing", but there is a problem with how we analyzed these campaigns. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #66
It never used keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #68
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #73
Completely keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #75
Yeah, that's fascinating. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #76
There were predictions that we would have 60 seats. former9thward Nov 2020 #71
In hindsite keepthemhonestO Nov 2020 #72
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