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fishwax

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34. I think that oversimplifies it quite a bit

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:44 PM

Oct 2012

If it's close, then yes, most DUers will say Obama won. That's natural and understandable, since there is rarely an objective "winner" of a debate--who wins depends entirely on who an individual thinks won. And the vast majority of DUers will be predisposed to favor the president. Nothing wrong with that.

If the night is a disaster, on the other hand, people will be much less ready to declare an outright winner but instead more likely to focus on the good moments from Obama and the bad moments from Romney. That's not to say, even in the event of a disaster, there wouldn't be some folks claiming he won, but it wouldn't be 90%. I think most posters would be more nuanced in their attempt to make lemonade.

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lets be honest, 90% here will say Obama won no matter what re: the debate [View all] quinnox Oct 2012 OP

I think your estimate is low. More like 99%. dkf Oct 2012 #1

Are you counting yourself in the 1 percent? ProSense Oct 2012 #4

Don't know yet do I? dkf Oct 2012 #7

But you apparently know what other people will do. ProSense Oct 2012 #10

Not everyone else on an individual basis... dkf Oct 2012 #20

Mitt will lose. I said it. ProSense Oct 2012 #26

I said nobody has wowed me so no not Mitt. dkf Oct 2012 #32

Ridiculously insulting to the posters here to make this statement and the OP's statement. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #37

Well then I take back the assumption I made that prosense above will think Obama won. dkf Oct 2012 #38

Because Romney's entire campaign is based on lies Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #2

Seems like you're hoping Romney wins. ProSense Oct 2012 #3

The "bash Obama" crowd sure seems worried these days. FSogol Oct 2012 #6

Its just something that came to mind quinnox Oct 2012 #9

So now ProSense Oct 2012 #13

lol prosense, only you coud turn a light-hearted observation into the inquisition quinnox Oct 2012 #22

"light-hearted observation"? ProSense Oct 2012 #23

"...the Hillary-Obama contest..." Chorophyll Oct 2012 #24

"I mean, what's the point of this?" Attention! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #17

No, if the President has a bad night, he has a bad night, and I'll say so. gkhouston Oct 2012 #5

good for you, you are objective quinnox Oct 2012 #11

Attacking DU members ... well done. I'd expect that on a FOX site, but not here. JoePhilly Oct 2012 #8

In 1960, Lenny Bruce called this phenomenon "the ear of the beholder". . . Journeyman Oct 2012 #12

When you're right, you're right. But I expect Obama will babylonsister Oct 2012 #14

Not me. MoonRiver Oct 2012 #15

If he does really well, I'd admit it but say it's easy when you are a lying, Hoyt Oct 2012 #16

That's how it will be on both sides... debates don't change anything budkin Oct 2012 #18

Yes but 110% of the other side will believe willard won. dogman Oct 2012 #19

I'm saying he won BEFORE the debate takes place. hay rick Oct 2012 #21

Odds are I would also take that bet quinnox Oct 2012 #25

That is an Odd thing to say on this forum JI7 Oct 2012 #27

I have no intention of watching. Deep13 Oct 2012 #28

awwww, it will be fun! quinnox Oct 2012 #30

I disagree. Yes we all have our bias, but in matters like this I think the assessment will still_one Oct 2012 #29

not necessarily. I think we'll accurately call the "optics" ecstatic Oct 2012 #31

Maybe. Maybe not. But I bet I know who the tree dwellers are pulling for. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #33

I think that oversimplifies it quite a bit fishwax Oct 2012 #34

I take your point n/t quinnox Oct 2012 #35

Thankfully, I'm in the reasonable 10% Ter Oct 2012 #36

kicking this, becuase (to my surprise) there are all kinds of "OMG OBAMA IS LOSING!" posts tonight fishwax Oct 2012 #39

Let's be honest mzmolly Oct 2012 #40

Romney came off as smoother - Obama was a bit stiff aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #41

You jinxed it Ter Oct 2012 #42