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quakerboy

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106. If the official label mattered
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:06 AM
Nov 2020

Then the fact that the democratic socialist was soundly defeated in the primary would have freed us from it.

Biden could denounce bernie, aoc and all other elected officials as disloyal communists, have them all deported to china and stripped of us citizenship, and in 4 and 8 years, the Right would still persuade half of Florida and a lot of others that Biden and Harris are dirty socialists. These are the same people who have convinced a lot of millions of people that trump is maybe still winning the election, and that democrats are running a pedophile ring under a pizza shop.

It has nothing to do with any official labels we use. It has nothing to do with any ideas or policy preferences. It has to do with the preponderance of propaganda.

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I have to say this. [View all] sheshe2 Nov 2020 OP
Who is being divisive? melman Nov 2020 #1
... sheshe2 Nov 2020 #4
lol.. omg. Cha Nov 2020 #12
Ta Da! sheshe2 Nov 2020 #14
We need to dump the democratic socialist label though. brush Nov 2020 #24
+1000. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #26
So big tent accept for democratic socialist ideas? questionseverything Nov 2020 #67
no one said reject the ideas. DeeNice Nov 2020 #72
Yeah, labels do matter PatSeg Nov 2020 #90
If the official label mattered quakerboy Nov 2020 #106
They are not socialist ideas, calling them such is false labelling, even by the very politicians who Celerity Nov 2020 #79
You don't get to be the label police questionseverything Nov 2020 #81
I do not have to be the police, I am using basic widely accepted (academically and in everyday Celerity Nov 2020 #93
Your patience in the face of absurd accusations is beyond my ken. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #95
Thank you for this, Celerity. Everyone should read this. brush Nov 2020 #87
yw, I have been battling this since I joined the board, so pardon me if it seems like I am a broken Celerity Nov 2020 #94
Please keep it up. It needs to be heard. brush Nov 2020 #96
Are you a democratic socialist? Most on this board are Democrats. brush Nov 2020 #97
I really appreciate the tone and apparent intent of this OP. KPN Nov 2020 #36
I don't know what you mean by a wink and a nod as we should be dead... brush Nov 2020 #45
The tone and intent of the op seems to be to drive out those of us who identify as democratic questionseverything Nov 2020 #80
do you believe in the destruction of the capitalist system and the expropriation of the means of Celerity Nov 2020 #101
I disagree. qdouble Nov 2020 #68
Everybody has an opinion but we see over and over again that... brush Nov 2020 #69
Republicans are going to call democrats socialists. qdouble Nov 2020 #73
Why give them such slam dunk messaging weapons like... brush Nov 2020 #74
Defund the police is not a democratic socialist idea questionseverything Nov 2020 #83
Please! No one said that. They are too separate but very damaging... brush Nov 2020 #85
'A lie goes around the world ten times while truth is still putting its boots on'. GoneOffShore Nov 2020 #77
Yes we do. Progressive dog Nov 2020 #75
um....... George II Nov 2020 #37
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I try. And another "dump and run"! George II Nov 2020 #102
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;) sheshe2 Nov 2020 #28
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Well said, She! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #2
Thank you, Sheltie. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #5
Yw, She! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #20
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YW, She. I worry often about.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2020 #104
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Yes. We are ONE. FM123 Nov 2020 #7
This. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #33
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True, but easier said than done. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #11
It is always easier said than done. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #54
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Cook Political Map shows a nearly universal swing to Dems in 2020 Cha Nov 2020 #18
Thanks Cha. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #42
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E Pluribus Unum Marcuse Nov 2020 #46
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