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crickets

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22. What 'deal'? Media often does a lazy, lackluster job of covering COVID relief efforts.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:31 PM
Nov 2020

It's a disservice to everyone to frame the issue merely in terms of dollars, ignoring the content of the proposed bills.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEROES_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEALS_Act

A major difference between the proposals concerns state and local governments. The HEALS Act provides no additional funding, while the HEROES Act allocates $1 trillion in additional aid to state and local governments.[36] Another difference is on evictions and foreclosure, which were forbidden in certain cases under the CARES Act. The HEALS Act lets the provisions expire, while the HEROES Act extends it for up to another year and expands the moratorium to cover all renters and homeowners, instead of just the special cases covered in the CARES Act.[37]


Another major difference is that HEALS includes shield provisions for corporate immunity. This is a major sticking point. HEALS also includes inappropriate allocations for NASA, West Wing renovations, and the DOD, including money for weapons and Navy aircraft procurement... but zero for Veterans Affairs.

There have been changes over time since both Acts first came out, but these differences give a good indication of the reasons why legislation has stalled. Media not bothering to address the details is misleading people into thinking no one is bothering to try to get help to everyday people, which just is not true. The HEROES Act isn't perfect, but at least the House passed something worthwhile, in May, which Mitch never bothered to bring the Senate floor for discussion.

That the Senate passed their bill and then called the House bill "partisan and unrealistic" is just insulting. As usual.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200805113420/https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/07/27/us/politics/27reuters-health-coronavirus-usa-legislation-factbox.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2020/07/28/think-the-senate-funding-bill-is-just-about-covid-19-think-again/?sh=3ac3532f1c3e




Democrats made a good faith effort at compromise and came back with a pared down version of HEROES, and still were rebuffed. It was a wasted effort, and media skewing the perception of events by not properly covering them doesn't help. Nancy Pelosi isn't the problem. trump, Mnuchin, Senate Republicans, and Mitch McConnell are the problem.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/09/29/stimulus-update-dems-cut-12-trillion-from-heroes-act-propose-22-trillion-stimulus-package/?sh=4cd62a8c57a9
People SAY a lot of things, especially about Pelosi vlyons Nov 2020 #1
I agree still_one Nov 2020 #17
It was Cruz and Paul who said "no way" to stimulus over 1 trillion. Laelth Nov 2020 #2
She should take it and move on. It will help some people Rice4VP Nov 2020 #3
Is there any indication McConnell Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #4
she went OFF (on the verge of losing her cool more than I have seen in years) every time a Celerity Nov 2020 #5
Do you know what exactly is in that bill ? kacekwl Nov 2020 #9
I don't know what's in it. But they need to do Rice4VP Nov 2020 #10
I don't disagree that more action is needed, but consider... better Nov 2020 #16
👆 This. crickets Nov 2020 #21
No I don't, but I got the impressions it didn't help the cities still_one Nov 2020 #18
It depends what is actually in it - the difference is NOT just the amount of money karynnj Nov 2020 #15
The Senate Republicans are to blame for the Hereos Act JonLP24 Nov 2020 #6
I saw that Jon, and I agree with your analysis still_one Nov 2020 #19
I've not seen literally a single post linking the failure to achieve a stimulus bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #7
Sooner or later, we're going to have to stop blaming the media... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #12
CNN, Fox News, & MSNBC are not the friends of Democrats JonLP24 Nov 2020 #13
Thinking people are going to change their habits is a long wait for a train that doesn't come. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2020 #14
When did the Senate pass the 1.8 bill ? From what I understand JI7 Nov 2020 #8
and nothing to the cities still_one Nov 2020 #20
This hurt in Florida MoonlitKnight Nov 2020 #11
What 'deal'? Media often does a lazy, lackluster job of covering COVID relief efforts. crickets Nov 2020 #22
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