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randome

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62. "Knowledge should be in the hands of the people."

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:12 PM

Oct 2012

ALL knowledge? No national secrets? No police investigations?

Assange seems to want all knowledge to be available all the time to all the people. That might sound cool in an imaginary Utopian society but it's hardly the world we live in.

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Assange: "From today WikiLeaks has decided to intervene in the U.S. federal election." [View all] wtmusic Oct 2012 OP

"Intervene." Brickbat Oct 2012 #1

Yes, I'd like to hear more about this "intervene" topic. nc4bo Oct 2012 #2

The way I read it, the intervention is that you send your money to wikileaks instead of a candidate Brickbat Oct 2012 #5

That will happen exactly HappyMe Oct 2012 #9

Hee! Brickbat Oct 2012 #11

How overly dramatic. nc4bo Oct 2012 #14

You called it! randome Oct 2012 #15

Agreed. And people will see what they want to see in it. As far as a fundraising come-on goes, Brickbat Oct 2012 #17

Wikileaks SuperPAC 2012 BenzoDia Oct 2012 #3

WIKIPAC! Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #26

Just when I thought the 2012 election was getting boring! Arctic Dave Oct 2012 #4

Wtf? "Intervene"? HappyMe Oct 2012 #6

They do sound like they're going Lenny Bruce on us. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #13

The British govt (*cough US*) is on track to spend $6.4 million to keep Assange on ice this year riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #7

"Bill 'em, Danno." randome Oct 2012 #16

Money talks. Spending this much on Assange indicates how much they care about him riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #18

Of course they care. He skipped bail and left his friends hanging. That's sort of against the law. randome Oct 2012 #20

Yeah, care to cite me ANY other case where bail jumping meant an annual fee of $6.4 million riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #21

Well, it's not every day that someone runs into the Ecuadorian embassy to hide from the law. randome Oct 2012 #22

It used to be that people would run to Western embassies R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #35

We are all above the law. tama Oct 2012 #24

I have to admit, you blew my mind with that one! randome Oct 2012 #25

Great :) tama Oct 2012 #33

Assange, OTOH, is an anarchist. So that's why he'll attack Obama the hardest. pnwmom Oct 2012 #44

Do people really think this way beyond middle school. girl gone mad Oct 2012 #66

Yeah, but it's fine for you to toss insults. pnwmom Oct 2012 #83

Oh--you ought to read tama's thoughts on how the Declaration of Independence overrides US law. msanthrope Oct 2012 #53

Comedy gold... SidDithers Oct 2012 #56

My Teabagger Neighbor thinks the Federalist Papers excuse him from zoning laws, and Vattel's Law of msanthrope Oct 2012 #57

Not even close. They're just pulling security people off other assignments, pnwmom Oct 2012 #42

"Give us money so we can bring the democratic process to a halt!" Curtland1015 Oct 2012 #8

Huh? Who? randome Oct 2012 #10

I believe that money is power hfojvt Oct 2012 #12

Sorry, I only give to the Human Fund... msanthrope Oct 2012 #76

... SidDithers Oct 2012 #19

Plus 1 treestar Oct 2012 #48

Yawn... HipChick Oct 2012 #23

What do you want to bet they'll intervene in a way that attempts to help the GOP? n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #27

Watch the video at the second link in the OP. MineralMan Oct 2012 #32

Thanks. I hate to be right about this because I'd have loved him to have released pnwmom Oct 2012 #40

he is as bad as ralph nader and not a hero by any means graham4anything Oct 2012 #28

He's worse. Nader did a lot of good in his early decades. n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #39

Rupert Murdoch a foreigner? Perish the thought! KamaAina Oct 2012 #49

Ah - the attention junky is trying leftynyc Oct 2012 #29

Yah, way to go, there, Wikileaks... MineralMan Oct 2012 #30

After Reviewing the Video at the Second Link, MineralMan Oct 2012 #31

Thanks, MineralMan. It just confirms what I've thought for a while. pnwmom Oct 2012 #37

Um, butt out, Wikileaks and Assange. You've now crossed a line. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #34

So, for the "freedom" he's going to intervene CitizenPatriot Oct 2012 #36

there is a sort of insane brilliance to it tho Bodhi BloodWave Oct 2012 #70

good point. maybe he can get it thru on the more open CitizenPatriot Oct 2012 #96

Officiallly. Fuck Julian Assange... SidDithers Oct 2012 #38

Here's a tricky question. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #50

Thank you, SidDithers. I don't care about who Cha Oct 2012 #77

... WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #41

Glad to see this butt munch keep showing his true colors. Egnever Oct 2012 #43

Ditto. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #51

"...moves towards...a transnational security state dystopia. Zorra Oct 2012 #45

Assange is making his own amoral, dystopian, anarchist aims very clear. pnwmom Oct 2012 #46

Where, exactly, does Assange say that all government is evil? Zorra Oct 2012 #69

He's an anarchist. That means he's against all government. n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #84

That is simply not even close to having any basis in reality. Zorra Oct 2012 #87

So you've just proven he's claiming to be a free-market Libertarian. pnwmom Oct 2012 #93

So now Assange has elevated himself to speak for 'the people'? randome Oct 2012 #47

I don't follow you. How does that specifically relate to my post? nt Zorra Oct 2012 #61

"Knowledge should be in the hands of the people." randome Oct 2012 #62

Under present circumstances, I don't know where to draw the line, because Zorra Oct 2012 #72

Not everything is run for a profit motive. randome Oct 2012 #75

The "sky" has been pissing down our backs and telling us it's raining for over 30 years now. Zorra Oct 2012 #86

Translation = Send me money? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #52

Smart move, because President Romney would just totally forget about it, right? truebrit71 Oct 2012 #54

Up until today I was neutral regarding Assange and Wikileaks. Butt out of our election. jwirr Oct 2012 #55

I'm a big supporter of WikiLeaks, Julian, and you need to BUTT OUT. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #58

"All your military secrets are belong to us!" randome Oct 2012 #59

Assange, Inc. Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #60

Exactly... SidDithers Oct 2012 #63

So, somebody remind me why rape is OK if you're Julian Assange ... Bake Oct 2012 #64

Julian needs to get out more. Iggo Oct 2012 #65

He certainly ruffles the feathers of the establishment and its adherents. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #67

I do get a good chuckle out of these threads. Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #81

He's an anarchist trying to bring chaos to government everywhere. pnwmom Oct 2012 #85

Gandhi was an Anarchist who ruffled feathers and brought down a government. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #91

Gandhi was a PACIFIST. He wasn't an anarchist. n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #92

Some Anarchists are pacifists...including Gandhi. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #94

Hardly. I support Assange- despite thinking he's a total asshole cali Oct 2012 #89

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #68

Never liked him. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #71

How many ways can I say FUCK YOU Assange? I'm running out of words. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #73

... SidDithers Oct 2012 #79

Remember when Cindy Sheehan went from being a sympathetic figure to being a goddamn nuisance? Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #74

Hey, where are the Bank of America files and the rest of the diplomatic cables? jberryhill Oct 2012 #78

Here is a link to all 251,287 cables. Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #80

''...a transnational security state dystopia.'' DeSwiss Oct 2012 #82

What a pompous ass. Julian, step out down the street for a cup of Joe. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #88

If Wikileaks are considered by the lying US government to be an "enemy of the state" Fire Walk With Me Oct 2012 #90

I guess it's not as fun as it used to be f___ing over just ordinary women. He's moved up. Ooooh, I'm Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #95