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Celerity

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125. Biden is going to end up getting well over 80 million votes, probably over 81 or 82 million when all
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 03:20 PM
Nov 2020

is said and done. Trump had a large increase in raw popular vote totals too, so it wasn't like Biden's massive numbers were solely built on centre-left, centrist, and conservative Dems plus defections from Republicans.

The younger voters and the progressive votes turned out in droves for Biden. If you think that AOC, Bernie and many of the other progressives literally had zero impact on driving the younger voters and the progressives to the polls you simply do not understand electoral politics. She campaigned her ass off for Biden, as did Bernie. If she had not, if Bernie had not, they would be getting flayed alive. That alone shows they have impact, as you cannot bang on them if whatever they do is basically meaningless. I also do not think, based upon your overall tenor and tone, that you know as many voters my age (the 18-30yo cohort, I am dead in the middle at 24) group as I do, and even if you do, you do not you seem to understand them as well. That is simply my opinion, based upon this colloquy and your posting elsewhere. If you did understand those cohorts better, you would understand what a huge impact she has on the 40 and under groups. You seem to overly concerned with trying to minimise and/or negate any and all about AOC in terms of any impact (other than a negative). It is rather curious.

Biden himself certainly thought she aids him.


Biden Names Ocasio-Cortez, Kerry to Lead His Climate Task Force, Bridging Democrats’ Divide

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/13052020/biden-ocasio-cortez-kerry-climate-task-force



about that youth vote............................


The Latest: Updated Youth Voter Turnout Estimate

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/election-week-2020

Updated November 18 | 10:30 a.m. ET — According to CIRCLE’s exclusive estimates, youth turnout was much higher in the 2020 election than in 2016.

Our calculations, based on votes counted as of November 18, suggest that 52%-55% of voting-eligible young people, ages 18-29, cast a ballot in the 2020 presidential election. Using the same methodology and data from a week after the election in 2016, we had previously estimated that youth voter turnout in 2016 was 42-44%.

In addition, we are projecting that once all votes are counted, youth turnout may rise to 53%-56%. Our 2016 projection based on the same data was that youth voter turnout that year would be 45%-48%. It’s notable that even the early youth turnout estimate for 2020 is higher than the projected estimate from 2016.

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Name me some other Dems who can draw 5 million views in less than day for an online campaign event (and it was a campaign event, to try and say it wasn't would betray a profound lack of understanding about youth culture in 2020).

I watched multiple online, highly promoted Biden (himself) events, and almost all of them struggled to get between 15 and 25,000 live (some had as few as 2400 real time streamers) views, and certainly came nowhere near 1.5 million live and 5 million in the first 24 hours view. Obviously Bide drew HUGE numbers for the Convention, dwarfing Trumps, and he had huge numbers for his big townhall on regular telly, but Biden is the centrepiece, the one running for the Presidency, and I never, ever claimed he was not effective, amazingly so. I am simply pushing back on your diminution attempt towards AOC.


The gamer vote: Democrats lean into video games to aid Biden campaign

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/10/22/video-games-2020-presidential-election-biden-trump/

On a Tuesday night, two weeks before the 2020 presidential election, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) “murdered” a star video game streamer in cold blood.

“It feels like an honor to get murdered by AOC,” said Imane “Pokimane” Anys, who played the murder mystery game “Among Us” with Ocasio-Cortez, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and a host of other notable streamers during an hours-long session on live-streaming platform Twitch.

At both the beginning and end of the stream, Ocasio-Cortez’s first on her newly minted Twitch channel, the congresswoman pleaded with viewers to register to vote and make a concrete plan to get to the polls on Election Day. The live video feed accumulated more than 1.5 million total views, according to stream analytics site Social Blade, with that number soaring to nearly 5 million less than a day later as more people watched the footage on demand.


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Nikki's going to need a good cut man gratuitous Nov 2020 #1
Seriously, my money is on AOC every time. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #2
Mick....cut me Mick. ResistantAmerican17 Nov 2020 #3
1% Of Americans Have $50 Trillion In Wealth DanieRains Nov 2020 #23
When will they learn ... Trying to roast AOC is like trying to heckle Richard Pryor EffieBlack Nov 2020 #4
Yep DanieRains Nov 2020 #24
Kelly Loeffler decides she wants some melman Nov 2020 #5
I love how she won't back down TheFarseer Nov 2020 #48
These fools keep forgetting the best line in A Bronx Tale greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #6
+1 I remember, good line. c-rational Nov 2020 #31
Ms. Loeffler's hair drives me crazy. Is she a witch or Rapunzel? northoftheborder Nov 2020 #7
Please don't insult witches like that. niyad Nov 2020 #14
Sorry - was visioning the Wizard of Oz version! northoftheborder Nov 2020 #89
Neither. She's a Republican Spokesmolitician. dchill Nov 2020 #34
Nikki, you and your buddies can send your checks back to the Treasury. Baked Potato Nov 2020 #8
Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is certainly quick with the applause lines. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #9
What you consider an applause line others see as AOC stating a fact about a fucking Republican Autumn Nov 2020 #12
The one doesn't deny the other. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #13
Good for her, indeed! The truth always wins a favorable response from me. Like Harry Truman, Autumn Nov 2020 #21
Oh my... melman Nov 2020 #25
Whatever gets you through the night. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #27
Well you took a jab at AOC and then tried to pretend you weren't melman Nov 2020 #29
Thank you. cwydro Nov 2020 #92
I can't help but think of this Seinfeld moment: George II Nov 2020 #32
Remember: The first shoe that fits, is free. JoeOtterbein Nov 2020 #36
Bingo. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #49
+1 George II Nov 2020 #28
Yup. What I see is just two people who want attention each saying Hortensis Nov 2020 #115
This. nt cwydro Nov 2020 #119
Looks to me like AOC responded wnylib Nov 2020 #128
:) Yes, she did fine. Hortensis Nov 2020 #129
No they shouldn't. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #64
We need more like that! progressoid Nov 2020 #33
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2020 #10
AOCs very very good quality is that she takes no guff on social media irisblue Nov 2020 #11
My respect for her was solidified when I read the transcript of her response to Yoho. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #17
That's gonna piss off the usuals Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #15
Vegas odds were like -10,000 on that happening. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #87
I just fainted looking at your signature Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #94
I found them. Not to worry I'll clutch them for you. Ah heck, in the spirit of the season, Autumn Nov 2020 #145
The Clutchable Pearls and Comfy Mauve Fainting Couch should arrive shortly. GoneOffShore Nov 2020 #126
A.O.C. warmfeet Nov 2020 #16
AOC is undefeated. melman Nov 2020 #18
BRAVO!! K&R Duppers Nov 2020 #19
I hope Speaker Pelosi Deuxcents Nov 2020 #20
Love it. nt iluvtennis Nov 2020 #22
There Is 60,000 Loopholes Making Sure Billionaires Don't Pay Taxes DanieRains Nov 2020 #26
Which is why we need a sales tax. Like every EU country has. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #108
Damn! That was good! Thank you AOC !!! liberalla Nov 2020 #30
It all amounts to nothing AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #35
AOC is still smarter than 99% of the men in DC and... JoeOtterbein Nov 2020 #37
???? George II Nov 2020 #39
Yes. JoeOtterbein Nov 2020 #41
Actually I'm not wondering. George II Nov 2020 #43
How many people will remember this twitter exchange a few days from now? AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #45
I hope Georgians don't...we have a primary to win in a purple state. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #71
You don't want them to remember her response to the Georgia (R) candidate Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #86
It has nothing to do with AOC...I have family there AOC has been demonized unfairly... Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #95
I'll set an alarm. How frequently would you like it re-posted/tweeted. Cerridwen Nov 2020 #103
She knows how to make sensational tweets AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #44
She won two elections, so she seems to be popular with her constituents. Autumn Nov 2020 #56
Any Democrat can win an election in a deep blue district AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #57
What goes in red states of course won't play well in blue states, Autumn Nov 2020 #59
Don't move the goalposts ... your original premise was proven wrong AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #63
What AOC says resonates quite well in purple districts. You don't seem Autumn Nov 2020 #93
The last election proved that statement to be untrue. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #113
We were never going to have Florida. And Cubans will never vote for Democrats socialism had Autumn Nov 2020 #120
Obama won Florida TWICE AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #122
Manchin or Henry Cuellar types would get crushed in many primaries as well. Celerity Nov 2020 #66
No one is advocating Manchin or Cuellar to run for POTUS. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #69
strawman, I never suggested AOC run for POTUS Celerity Nov 2020 #70
Please look further down the thread. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #73
Why? I have had my say in regards to your attacks, if you want to have a go about AOC ad POTUS Celerity Nov 2020 #74
There is no attack. AOC may turn out to be the very finest congresswoman. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #111
Neither Joe Manchin nor Henry Cuellar will be running in a primary in NY-14. George II Nov 2020 #147
Crowley couldn't. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #88
that's unfair. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #91
Fail. That was in the primary. Crowley never lost the GE. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #112
Excuses, excuses as to why Crowley lost. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #118
The population of the 14th District isn't highly educated or wealthy. George II Nov 2020 #141
Crowley never lost an election in that District. George II Nov 2020 #140
Primary isn't an election? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #146
And I think there was a very low turnout when she won, if I remember correctly. cwydro Nov 2020 #99
There was a lot of confusion in 2018. There was a highly publicized state-wide.... George II Nov 2020 #144
You are doubting that she is intelligent? Caliman73 Nov 2020 #117
Ok boomer questionseverything Nov 2020 #51
Are you blaming all boomers? AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #52
I am a boomer questionseverything Nov 2020 #55
I agree, but few others will. Just like children bickering. But thats Twitter. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #110
I seriously hope AOC runs for president someday. Mr. Evil Nov 2020 #38
Me... JoeOtterbein Nov 2020 #42
...to George II Nov 2020 #46
too? Celerity Nov 2020 #60
Oh my god, that was priceless, wasn't it. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #90
It is the Oxford to. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #96
Me... Autumn Nov 2020 #53
How about Senate or Governor ? JI7 Nov 2020 #54
She can't win a state-wide office AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #58
Senator, yes. Mr. Evil Nov 2020 #62
Let's see her win a statewide election first. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #61
She has already been branded as an extremist by a vast majority. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #65
She is a prominent member of our party, there is literally nothing you or people like you can Celerity Nov 2020 #68
She is prominent because she tweets and has a fan club. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #72
That's a good way to describe it. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #80
a fan club, lol Celerity Nov 2020 #85
Please show me a link where voters voted for Biden because of AOC AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #114
Biden is going to end up getting well over 80 million votes, probably over 81 or 82 million when all Celerity Nov 2020 #125
None of that proves that the young voters wouldn't have voted for Biden anyway AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #130
AOC interacted with millions of potential Dem voters during her campaigning for Biden, it is Celerity Nov 2020 #131
Myths are tiresome and unproductive AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #133
What's the key word? melman Nov 2020 #135
No idea AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #137
Nobody is attacking her. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #77
Nobody is attacking her. Celerity Nov 2020 #82
The "Democratic voters in places like Peoria or DesMoines" are also trending younger. jaxexpat Nov 2020 #67
Oh. I see. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #76
+1 treestar Nov 2020 #79
The extremely low life expectancies of our ancestors, MoonchildCA Nov 2020 #98
Thankfully the American people rely on older candidates to elect as their President. The youngest... George II Nov 2020 #138
Why is that always the answer? treestar Nov 2020 #78
Oh, you! Always making smart and intelligent comments and astute observations! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #83
Aw thanks! treestar Nov 2020 #143
I just think it's time we went a little further left in this country. Mr. Evil Nov 2020 #139
The voters have to be convinced treestar Nov 2020 #142
Someone tell Nikki Haley whatever street cred she had built up in her early years, mdbl Nov 2020 #40
She knows how to shut these corrupt fools up and they hate her for it. jalan48 Nov 2020 #47
See that is the issue. AOC unfairly is being given the 'Hillary' treatment in red and purple Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #75
You're correct. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #84
Thank you Jackie...I get that she wants to help and appreciate the effort but... Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #97
So she shouldn't be raising money through ACTBlue for Georgia? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #100
Nobody said that. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #101
Well, that's what she is doing to help. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #104
The real strawman is making false claims like that. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #105
So pointing out that Loeffler is a grifter is bad? I think we need more Democrats speaking out jalan48 Nov 2020 #102
KNR Lucinda Nov 2020 #50
does nikki haley - the traitor supporting creep - have any words about trump's attack on Democracy? samsingh Nov 2020 #81
While nice and all Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #106
+1 AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #134
BURN!!! BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #107
I lulz'd. KG Nov 2020 #109
Nimrata VA_Jill Nov 2020 #116
I did a thread on the original tweet melman Nov 2020 #121
It is amazing Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #127
Yes melman Nov 2020 #136
Don't mess with a girl from the Bronx. Sprite Nov 2020 #123
when finding oneself in a hole, first rule is: stop digging🤣 bringthePaine Nov 2020 #124
Haley and other Pukes are too dumb to know when "you come at the Queen, you best not miss." ... Autumn Nov 2020 #132
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