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Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:39 PM Nov 2020

Rebecca Solnit: On Not Meeting Nazis Halfway [View all]

A Long Interesting read. And for the record I have no interest in understanding the mind of a Magat. I don't want to be what they are and if you understand it, you can be it.

“When Trump won the 2016 election—while losing the popular vote—the New York Times seemed obsessed with running features about what Trump voters were feeling and thinking. These pieces treated them as both an exotic species and people it was our job to understand, understand being that word that means both to comprehend and to grant some sort of indulgence to. Now that Trump has lost the 2020 election, the Los Angeles Times has given their editorial page over to letters from Trump voters, who had exactly the sort of predictable things to say we have been hearing for far more than four years, thanks to the New York Times and what came to seem like about 11,000 other news outlets hanging on the every word of every white supremacist they could convince to go on the record.

The letters editor headed this section with, “In my decade editing this page, there has never been a period when quarreling readers have seemed so implacably at odds with each other, as if they get their facts and values from different universes. As one small attempt to bridge the divide, we are providing today a page full of letters from Trump supporters.” The implication is the usual one: we—urban multiethnic liberal-to-radical only-partly-Christian America—need to spend more time understanding MAGA America. The demands do not go the other way. Fox and Ted Cruz and the Federalist have not chastised their audiences, I feel pretty confident, with urgings to enter into discourse with, say, Black Lives Matter activists, rabbis, imams, abortion providers, undocumented valedictorians, or tenured lesbians. When only half the divide is being tasked with making the peace, there is no peace to be made, but there is a unilateral surrender on offer. We are told to consider this bipartisanship, but the very word means both sides abandon their partisanship, and Mitch McConnell and company have absolutely no interest in doing that.”

Paul Waldman wrote a valuable column in the Washington Post a few years ago, in which he pointed out that this discord is valuable fuel to right-wing operatives: “The assumption is that if Democrats simply choose to deploy this powerful tool of respect, then minds will be changed and votes will follow. This belief, widespread though it may be, is stunningly naive.” He notes that the sense of being disrespected “doesn’t come from the policies advocated by the Democratic Party, and it doesn’t come from the things Democratic politicians say. Where does it come from? An entire industry that’s devoted to convincing white people that liberal elitists look down on them. The right has a gigantic media apparatus that is devoted to convincing people that liberals disrespect them, plus a political party whose leaders all understand that that idea is key to their political project and so join in the chorus at every opportunity.”

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Many in magaworld have no concept of not biting the hand that feeds. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #1
They think they are self sufficient in their rural isolation DBoon Nov 2020 #5
Urban people pay more than they should for electricity, roads and broadband Blue_true Nov 2020 #10
Exactly! treestar Nov 2020 #25
excellent read Skittles Nov 2020 #2
I will never respect "stupid" Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #3
Repeatedly Calling THem Stupid Me. Nov 2020 #9
More of a lack of any morals, and weakness of character, than stupidity. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #30
K&R! ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #4
I call that "gigantic media apparatus" the propaganda machine. Compromise with Nazis? Nope. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #6
Indeed Me. Nov 2020 #8
I can't even figure out what halfway between fascism and democracy would look like. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #16
It's All About THem Me. Nov 2020 #17
Koch said he's sorry while at the same time feeding a few hundred thou to Perdue and Loeffler. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #34
And There You Have It Me. Nov 2020 #35
IDC Fthem all lunasun Nov 2020 #7
I'll never respect Rethuglicans again. EvahEvahEvah Tommymac Nov 2020 #11
When Someone Tells You Who They Are Believe Them Me. Nov 2020 #12
Unfortunately my in-laws are the worst offenders. Tommymac Nov 2020 #13
THe Old You Can't Chhose Families Me. Nov 2020 #14
Great article, thanks for posting it! Withywindle Nov 2020 #15
Exactly. Great read, ty. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #18
"When only half the divide is being tasked with making the peace, ..." Martin Eden Nov 2020 #19
Actually, It's Not Quite A Divide Me. Nov 2020 #20
When only 31% consider themselves Republican but approx 48% Martin Eden Nov 2020 #21
In The Long Run Me. Nov 2020 #23
Can we convince them not to be scared of that? treestar Nov 2020 #26
I Don't Know Me. Nov 2020 #29
Focus our messaging on the common interests of the vast majority Martin Eden Nov 2020 #32
"The assumption is that if Democrats simply choose to deploy this powerful tool of respect, Hotler Nov 2020 #22
I Quite Agree Me. Nov 2020 #24
The next time McTurtle refuses to put a house bill up for vote treestar Nov 2020 #27
The EC and Senate giving them more power treestar Nov 2020 #28
All sides make simplistic use of irrelevant information. There's no such thing as halfway. gulliver Nov 2020 #31
Interestimg Post Me. Nov 2020 #33
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