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DetlefK

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Sun Nov 29, 2020, 12:01 PM Nov 2020

Holy fucking shit!!! Maureen Dowd at the NYT has gone insane!!! [View all]

Last edited Sun Nov 29, 2020, 04:07 PM - Edit history (1)

EDIT: I misread the disclaimer. This wasn't written by Maureen Dowd but by her rightwing wingnut brother.

Still, I think the op-ed serves as a nice view into the selective perception of right-wingers, angrily ignoring everything that doesn't fit into their world-view.






https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/26/opinion/thanksgiving-dowd-2020.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Historians, 20 or 30 years hence, will be the impartial arbiters of his accomplishments, but for the nearly 74 million people who voted for him, he already has fulfilled their hopes and justified their trust.

What happened to draining the swamp? What happened to making the US respected again? What happened to building a wall and making Mexico pay for it? What happened to replacing Obamacare? What happened to reducing the national debt to zero? What happened to the record-braking multi-trillion-dollar infrastructure renovation?

Making a bunch of idiots think that you did something, DOES NOT COUNT AS ACTUALLY DOING IT!



The Democrats call now for unity, but four years ago, they screamed for resistance and upheaval. They encouraged confrontation of Trump officials at their homes and restaurants. They opposed the administration every step of the way. Their hypocrisy is laughable.


Those hypocritical Democrats! Refusing to oppose the best President ever!



Trump gave us a strong economy, achieved the lowest unemployment in 50 years, fortified the border and guaranteed the integrity of the judicial system by appointing over 200 judges, including three Supreme Court justices.


In historical comparison, Trump's economy is actually mediocre. His economic growth percentage-wise (excluding the COVID-recession) is no higher than the economic growth of the George W. Bush-era (excluding the 2008/2009 recession) or of the Clinton-era. Plus, if Obama's track-record has to include the 2009 recession, then Trump's track-record has to include the 2020 recession.

And Trump "guaranteed the integrity of the judicial system" after McConnell prevented Obama from doing so and then stacked the courts with unqualified partisan hacks. What an achievement!



He was labeled a racist but funded historically black colleges and created opportunity zones with Senator Tim Scott. He was able to sign meaningful prison reform legislation.


He labeled Africa as shithole-countries, he labeled mexican illegal immigrants as murderers and rapists, he separated toddlers from their parents and put them into cages, his administration has lost hundreds of underage latino-children and has made no effort to find them, his administration has illegally denied asylum-seekers the right to apply for asylum on US soil, he signed a supposedly anti-terrorist travel-ban for muslim ountries but somehow excluded muslim countries wheremost of the islamic terrorists come from, he called black people protesting police-brutality "sons of bitches", he has protected and supported actual streetfighting Neonazis at every opportunity, he tried to get the votes of majority-black precincts thrown out in the 2020 election. And he built that fucking expensive and fucking useless wall THAT YOU JUST COMMENDED HIM FOR and that won't actually make a dent in illegal immigration because most illegal immigrants come to the US legally and simply overstay their visas.



He had foreign policy successes as well, renegotiating NAFTA and abandoning the disastrous Iranian nuclear deal (which took a $400 million cash bribe to close). He aggressively confronted China for its egregious behavior, brokered Middle East peace deals and was the greatest friend in the White House that Israel ever had.[


He exited NAFTA just so he can negiotiate basically the same deal again but this time with his name on it. He BROKE the nuclear deal with Iran, setting the precedent that the US cannot be trusted to go through on its own deals. He has started a tarif-war with China that increased consumer-prices in the US and is driving small farms ever-faster to extinction. He has shamelessly taken Israels side and has destroyed for good any chance for the US to be a non-partisan broker in the Israel-Palestinian conflict ever again.



Donald Trump was not without his flaws, but he stood like a brick wall against an unfair and openly hostile press and, alarmingly, a deep state aligned against him.


Oh, the unfair and openly hostile press that dared to report on what Trump is saying and doing.
Oh, the deep state that somehow decided to not make it public that Trump is under investigation for russian collusion.
Oh, the deep state that somehow dared to put loyalty to the US over loyalty to him.



Trump made the Republican Party tougher, teaching it to counterpunch harder than its opponent.


Shameless lying is not counterpunching.



Mark down the levels of the Dow Jones and your 401(k)s. If Biden reimposes President Barack Obama’s regulations, the economy will shortly be back to where it was under Obama.


Sooooooooooooo, according to Maureen Dowd the COVD-recession DOESN'T count towards Trump's economic track-record.



The Democrats remain mystified by the loyalty of Trump’s base. It is rock solid because half the country was tired of being patronized and lied to and worse, taken for granted. Trump was unique because he was only interested in results.


No, it was rock-solid because Trump gave them what they wanted: A white strongman who gave them permission to shamelessly give in to their darkest desires.

And the notion that somehow white rural conservatives people are taken for granted is UTTER nonsense considering that the majority of lawmakers are white, christian males AND that rural states have outsized political power in the US Senate.



The Republican success down-ballot and in state legislatures shows the folly of this condescension and sends a clear message that a majority of Americans are not ready for the socialist agenda favored by the radical left.


Yay! Even more evidence that Americans don't know shit about what socialism actually is! They even think that socialism and social-democracy are the same thing!!!
(At this point I am seriously expecting Maureen Dowd to say that the Nazis were left-wingers because they were the National-Socialist Party.)



Trump was adored by his followers, who will remember him kindly.


Yeah, the rest of the civilized world hated him, but republican voters loved him, which can only mean that he was a good person, because the opinions of non-Republicans don't count.



A final word to the media: The open bar at the wedding is closed. Your ratings and circulation are about to tank. You may think you ran down the stag, but you will quickly realize that Joe Biden on a daily basis, speaking through his mask, will not generate the same ratings.


Good grief. Maureen Dowd thinks that having a boring and effective government that doesn't generate apocalyptic headlines is somehow a bad thing.



A word of caution to Fox News: Your not-so-subtle shift leftward is a mistake.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here we have it:

Maureen Dowd thinks that reporting facts instead of bothsiderism is political bias.





And finally, a special congratulations to Senator Susan Collins, who cruised to re-election despite gloomy forecasts and a ton of dark money spent against her. The people of Maine place high value on integrity.


Nope. Not gonna comment on that.
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meh. that's maureen's predictable schtick struggle4progress Nov 2020 #1
She didn't write it. cwydro Nov 2020 #39
So what? She gave it her place on the WaPo page struggle4progress Nov 2020 #46
Actually, it was the New York Times. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #54
Oops. So still -- so what? She gave her place in the NYT struggle4progress Nov 2020 #61
There are no "family issues" that matter here. She put this under her byline. JHB Nov 2020 #66
Not insane, this sounds like typical Dowd. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #2
She DID NOT write it. cwydro Nov 2020 #40
But she published Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #58
Dowd ANTI-admirer here, but she was quoting HER TRUMPIST BROTHER. Hortensis Nov 2020 #69
Oh yeah we all owe her a big fat apology. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #73
So because she was just quoting someone Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #75
It's the reader's responsibility to understand, and NYT readers Hortensis Nov 2020 #78
She published it under her byline Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #79
:) Responsibility means those who have it can't give it away. Hortensis Nov 2020 #82
Yet she gave away her column space Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #84
Her Trumpflake brother wrote it. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #111
GONE insane? To be fair, it was a short trip anyway Cirque du So-What Nov 2020 #3
It was written by her wingnut brother Glorfindel Nov 2020 #4
Thanks. That seems to be an important point. Her brother pretty much sounds like every white winger Hoyt Nov 2020 #22
Her brother Kevin wrote it. Raftergirl Nov 2020 #5
She's having a champagne cocktail while he bemoans Democrat elitism? nolabear Nov 2020 #45
Look at the intro. It's her right-wing brother's piece, not hers. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #6
Not Maureen, her brother Kevin, as it states in the set up... SharonClark Nov 2020 #7
She turned the most valuable real estate in media over to her RWNJ brother mcar Nov 2020 #8
+ struggle4progress Nov 2020 #48
Yes, it should not have been published by nyt... Meowmee Nov 2020 #112
It is her wingnut brother who wrote it. N/t Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #9
If she let him write this knowing he is a wingnut standingtall Nov 2020 #62
The OP didn't allege she was vicariously responsible Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #63
That piece is written by her Trumper brother Kevin BeyondGeography Nov 2020 #10
Im not understanding how anybody thinks she should be defending standingtall Nov 2020 #64
Hot off the gasbag's own press sects desk. This mahina Nov 2020 #11
It's not hers, it's her brother's. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #23
Every Thanksgiving she does this. Biophilic Nov 2020 #34
Her brother Kevin wrote the column. See the intro. Nt spooky3 Nov 2020 #12
written by her brother. why she felt it was worth publishing is another matter NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #14
It's her Trumpazoid brother Kevin's piece, not hers. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #16
Thanks for the correction. I deleted my post. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #20
Maybe she let him have her space to make him look stupid. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #24
One would think the OP would edit, wouldn't one? cwydro Nov 2020 #37
One would think. And one would also think people would read the piece itself The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #43
One would think this pointless defense of her column kcr Nov 2020 #88
No one is defending it, or at least I'm not. cwydro Nov 2020 #91
There is a difference between correcting factual misstatements Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #94
It also matters how you correct kcr Nov 2020 #96
The OP (to which these posts are responding) Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #101
Again, I'm not protesting correction. kcr Nov 2020 #106
No trick at all. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #108
Unfortunately, too many people around here have a knee jerk reaction Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #99
As if all these correctors kcr Nov 2020 #100
No one is pretending it doesn't matter - we are correcting a misstatement of fact by the OP Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #102
It's been literally said in this thread. Multiple times. kcr Nov 2020 #104
That is a DIFFERENT discussion that those of us correcting the post are engaging in. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #110
Is she the one Bartcop used to call Dragon-lady? n/t gay texan Nov 2020 #15
He used to say "Maureen Dowd hates everybody. Today it's _______." Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2020 #19
Yes!!!! n/t gay texan Nov 2020 #26
1/2 the replies here are correcting the author's name. How about updating the OP? Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2020 #18
Once again, it's her brother's piece, not hers. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #27
People jump to conclusions really quickly around here. cwydro Nov 2020 #33
People don't f&cking READ THE LINKED ITEM before opining! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #38
I know. cwydro Nov 2020 #47
But she still published it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #76
That's a different issue. The point is that the piece was represented as being BY her The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #77
Ok that's fair Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #80
But it really isn't a different issue. kcr Nov 2020 #98
Yieks! Since she didn't write it, you want the times to fire her? jimfields33 Nov 2020 #29
Why does this woman still have a job? CanonRay Nov 2020 #21
Because she didn't write it. That's why!!!!!!!!! jimfields33 Nov 2020 #30
No but she published it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #35
when you put your name on it you own it. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #72
eeeeeeew! A fascist! Make it go awaaaaay! Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #25
Mask off! W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #28
You mean she wasn't insane before this drivel? Autumn Nov 2020 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author CTyankee Nov 2020 #44
She won't remember writing it because she didn't write it. Her brother did, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #50
Thanks for reminding me. I shudda read the intro! CTyankee Nov 2020 #55
Do you know her? cwydro Nov 2020 #51
Calm down. It was written by her brother. cwydro Nov 2020 #32
I'm trying to imagine BainsBane Nov 2020 #71
I didn't get past "justified their trust" Martin Eden Nov 2020 #36
*sigh* ONCE MORE: She didn't write it. Her brother wrote it. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #41
Thread title is a wee bit misleading, then Martin Eden Nov 2020 #52
Be that as it may, it's always a good idea to read the actual piece The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #53
He didn't get it, either. Iggo Nov 2020 #59
Read the rest of the thread if you can't be bothered to read her column more carefully. cwydro Nov 2020 #42
Dowd is the quintessential Karen. radius777 Nov 2020 #49
I'm curious as to why you report in the first paragraph tavernier Nov 2020 #56
Fake news. obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2020 #57
I think her snowybirdie Nov 2020 #60
Never read her MFM008 Nov 2020 #65
FYI MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #67
Newspaper opinion BGBD Nov 2020 #68
in all fairness, the fascist perspective gets very little media coverage. Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #70
Maureen is still pissed because Bill Clinton rejected her. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #74
Maybe she's auditioning for wife #4 since it's time for a trade-in. Vinca Nov 2020 #81
It would be her brother who is auditioning for that role. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #86
So she didn't go to her Trump-loving family's Thanksgiving frazzled Nov 2020 #83
Thank you. You said it best. cwydro Nov 2020 #87
It's always kind of obvious that when frazzled Nov 2020 #95
She is not the only person that said or wrote head spinning Blue_true Nov 2020 #85
Well, you sure ruffled the Dowd fans on DU kcr Nov 2020 #89
Is the NYT paying Dowd's drooling right-wing brother for this shit? Paladin Nov 2020 #90
Well, as long as SHE didn't write it kcr Nov 2020 #92
It is our fault that Maureen Dowd gets attention Cameliano Nov 2020 #93
NYT seems to be the sludgehole lately. Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #97
You couldn't pay me to read her malaise Nov 2020 #103
Lapdog Extraordinaire. calimary Nov 2020 #105
Trashing this thread due to inaccuracy of OP. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #107
Thanks for the correction! n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #109
It was written by her mentally challenged RW brother. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #113
Change the damn headline!! Poiuyt Nov 2020 #114
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