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ProfessorGAC

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2. Explaining A Slogan?

Reply to StrictlyRockers (Original post)

Thu Dec 3, 2020, 06:01 PM

Dec 2020

Seems inherently contradictory.

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No one can explain "Defund the Police" or "Abolish the Police" as well as activists can. [View all] StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 OP

Thus demonstrating why it's a bad slogan. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #1

Exactly right Rorey Dec 2020 #4

Exactly wrong. StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 #9

No, slogans like that make it easy to dismiss the problem and possible solutions. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #10

Only if you don't care about the problem. StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 #12

This is not about "bashing Democratic activists" it's about the effectiveness of a slogan. PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #13

Democratic activists say they love the slogan and it's the perfect slogan. StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 #14

Because to you disagreeing is "bashing" - and you wonder why you can't have a productive dialog. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2020 #15

Thank you.. that's exactly what's happening Cha Dec 2020 #40

Stop the naivete. That's the biggest vote loser slogan ever. Ever. brush Dec 2020 #21

Do you have a single point of data to support this claim? StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 #63

12 of them. 12, count 'em, 12 House seats lost. brush Dec 2020 #64

If the Dems had embraced the causes of the left, they would have won seats StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 #65

Is comprehension a problem? No one said Dems ran on defund the police. brush Dec 2020 #66

You still have no data to support your claim? StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 #70

Are you still with this old argument? We lost 12 House seats, almost our whole... brush Dec 2020 #71

Good, then you admit you're wrong, and you have nothing to prove this crazy claim. StrictlyRockers Dec 2020 #72

Sorry, but I'm not willing to get used to losing elections Rorey Dec 2020 #25

I think the mistake is in thinking that every voter is willing to invest time and energy Rorey Dec 2020 #30

Hoo boy. No wonder our republic is on the brink of death. Crunchy Frog Dec 2020 #35

Obamacare is harder to explain wellst0nev0ter Dec 2020 #18

Explaining A Slogan? ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #2

If you are explaining, you are losing. Blue_true Dec 2020 #51

While you're insisting on that slogan, why not shoot yourself in the foot for good measure? Squinch Dec 2020 #3

Correct. It alienates potential allies. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #19

Which is why they have failed to move the needle. DinahMoeHum Dec 2020 #5

Exactly. De-militarize is good. Anything is better than defund the police which... brush Dec 2020 #22

Wa-a-a-a-ait a second gratuitous Dec 2020 #6

I watched the video. I spent the 77 seconds. Silent3 Dec 2020 #8

Ya want a slogan that's a positive winner and doesn't have to be explained. brush Dec 2020 #23

Number of people shot to death by the police in the United States from 2017 to 2020, by race Klaralven Dec 2020 #7

Defund the Police is poor marketing but we are stuck with it now. PTWB Dec 2020 #11

Only if you want to lose the house in 22. We should find a better way. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #17

Nah. PTWB Dec 2020 #34

Sure...a 'slogan' can destroy the strongest of candidates. That is what you don't see. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #59

Change the narrative. PTWB Dec 2020 #61

What leads you to allege we're stuck with it and it's "the right thing to do" LanternWaste Dec 2020 #20

We're not stuck with anything Rorey Dec 2020 #27

one thing I do know quickesst Dec 2020 #16

"DefundThe police"?It is - and will remain - an inane meaningless slogan without definitive meaning. NotANeocon Dec 2020 #24

I'm thinking it's a pride thing Rorey Dec 2020 #28

It's a cost thing - NotANeocon Dec 2020 #31

I agree, and the biggest cost is in time and effort Rorey Dec 2020 #32

The activist scene needs people with marketing experience DSandra Dec 2020 #26

People with marketing experience don't become street activists, because they have figured out Blue_true Dec 2020 #52

People with marketing experience don't become street activists, because they have figured out Blue_true Dec 2020 #53

And I would add they need experience in winning elections and what it takes. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #60

Which is why "abolish the police" is a better one. It speaks for itself. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #29

No it does not speak for itself! NotANeocon Dec 2020 #33

It means what it says tho. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #36

Not at 3AM when your house is being invaded by thugs! NotANeocon Dec 2020 #39

Why, what are the cops going to do? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #41

Righttt NotANeocon Dec 2020 #44

Nah, just sharing what I know. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #46

What are they going to do? Seriously, these scenarios are so rare and even more rarely end... Humanist_Activist Dec 2020 #43

'Thugs'? sheshe2 Dec 2020 #50

NO - you will NOT steal my words and language to silence me. NotANeocon Dec 2020 #54

Do you ever watch the news? sheshe2 Dec 2020 #55

Parse "news" NotANeocon Dec 2020 #56

"Your bullshit link is totally without proper proof or reference and therefore without authority." sheshe2 Dec 2020 #58

HMMMMM NotANeocon Dec 2020 #62

Slogans are like jokes AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #37

another aidbo Dec 2020 #38

Referto Post 37 NotANeocon Dec 2020 #42

It is not a slogan, it is a policy demand. aidbo Dec 2020 #45

Why 'Defund The Police' Attacks Were So Potent Against Democrats Gothmog Dec 2020 #47

Biden ean explicitly against defund BGBD Dec 2020 #48

I'm going back to the original slogan: maxsolomon Dec 2020 #49

CORRECT. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #57

It if needs to be explained, it's a shitty slogan. SMC22307 Dec 2020 #67

Always argue with the other side's fool. gulliver Dec 2020 #68

If your explaining you're losing Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #69