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blueinredohio

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41. There's a difference when you're armed and yelling obscenities.

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Sun Dec 6, 2020, 10:34 PM

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MI SoS Benson says armed individuals have surrounded her home to chant obscenities at her. [View all] Nevilledog Dec 2020 OP

I thought "disturbing the peace" FoxNewsSucks Dec 2020 #1

its all good if you are a white supremacist.nt. drray23 Dec 2020 #2

what is amazing is that 18 limbaugh stations creating this bullshit depend on MSU and UofM to certainot Dec 2020 #80

As carlin would say,"that's how the owners want it " questionseverything Dec 2020 #82

So this is the Democrats' fault, that DEMOCRATS Hortensis Dec 2020 #83

Negligent sounds about right... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #85

closer to $4.6 B/year! $90M/week free for them for the next 4 weeks to Jan 5 certainot Dec 2020 #93

at least liberals can handle constructive criticism. it is irresponsible for democratic and certainot Dec 2020 #92

And also that people have time for this because treestar Dec 2020 #90

I hope she called the police. nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #3

betcha those *are* the police nt 0rganism Dec 2020 #44

+1. nt. Mariana Dec 2020 #55

Very possible. mountain grammy Dec 2020 #67

Why haven't they been driven away with tear-gas? Oh, that's right, they are white. Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #4

Get the POLICE ON THOSE ASSHOLES! Cha Dec 2020 #5

Can't. They haven't broken any laws. Kaleva Dec 2020 #7

My bad.. I thought threatening, Cha Dec 2020 #10

She said in her post she considered it threatening. And this may be illegal: spooky3 Dec 2020 #11

Yes, Threatening is in the Cha Dec 2020 #20

True, but see the link from the MI attorney - they would look at the context and circumstances. spooky3 Dec 2020 #24

I agree.. if SOS Benson feels Cha Dec 2020 #25

This isn't much different then people protesting outside the home of Mitch McConnell Kaleva Dec 2020 #12

Were they brandishing weapons outside Mitch's house? They were, at Benson's. nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #14

Open carry is legal in Michigan. Kaleva Dec 2020 #15

Not when it is threatening. See the links in my earlier post. And, you didn't answer my question. spooky3 Dec 2020 #16

I don't think you know how Michigan defines "brandishing". Kaleva Dec 2020 #17

You still did not answer my question. The answer is the protesters outside of Mitch's house spooky3 Dec 2020 #19

You have failed to show or offer evidence that guns were "brandished" at the protest. Kaleva Dec 2020 #26

Please do a modicum of research and you will find that you are wrong. Have a nice evening. nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #30

In the classes I took, this was covered. Kaleva Dec 2020 #34

Really? Show where it's legal in Michigan to threaten someone with a gun kcr Dec 2020 #31

Who pointed a gun at SOS Benson or her child? Kaleva Dec 2020 #33

Just because the police did nothing about it doesn't mean nothing happened kcr Dec 2020 #39

No but I'm probably more well versed regarding the laws then you are. Kaleva Dec 2020 #45

You are carefully avoiding answering the question relayerbob Dec 2020 #47

What question is that? Kaleva Dec 2020 #51

Were they brandishing weapons at this person's house? Were they brandishing them at McConnell's relayerbob Dec 2020 #56

As I said, I don't know how Kentucky defines "brandishing". Kaleva Dec 2020 #61

Yes, I understand.... and you still refuse to answer the question relayerbob Dec 2020 #68

You are wrong Kaleva Dec 2020 #91

Seeing as you're blatantly ignoring the information given in this thread, probably not kcr Dec 2020 #48

Where has AG Nessel said that the protestors broke the law? Kaleva Dec 2020 #57

They were screaming obscenities at her and calling her a murderer kcr Dec 2020 #43

where is your evidence that they, under Michigan law, threatened anyone with a gun? Kaleva Dec 2020 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author relayerbob Dec 2020 #46

You have Failed to make your case Cha Dec 2020 #79

If only there were a way to find out... kcr Dec 2020 #27

The kicker is proving intent. Kaleva Dec 2020 #29

Because that's so hard to do kcr Dec 2020 #32

It is very hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Kaleva Dec 2020 #35

They only brought the guns along because they're support guns kcr Dec 2020 #40

Most likely true. Kaleva Dec 2020 #49

Wow kcr Dec 2020 #50

Can you provdie a link to where the protesters "brandished" their guns at SOS Benson or her child Kaleva Dec 2020 #54

I already provided to you kcr Dec 2020 #59

Okay. where does AG Nessel say that laws were broken? Kaleva Dec 2020 #62

Yeah. She only stated the family was terrorized is all kcr Dec 2020 #65

Actually they are.. :)))) HUAJIAO Dec 2020 #58

That's my new name for them kcr Dec 2020 #60

I know I'm late to the party, I just have to ask the following... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #86

There is no way for me to prove that they were. Kaleva Dec 2020 #88

I think they broke the law, but were not charged. Aint it great to be white in America. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #94

You favor making people prove they are innocent then. Kaleva Dec 2020 #95

Switching the topic doesn't change reality. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #96

The topic is the same. You prefer making the accused prove their innocence. Kaleva Dec 2020 #98

PS to my last message... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #97

In reply to your PS Kaleva Dec 2020 #99

my point was read the whole message before replying... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #101

We can agree that the laws here leave a lot to be desired. Kaleva Dec 2020 #102

You just said it wasn't different from the protesters around McConnell's. But the D protestors pnwmom Dec 2020 #23

I the eyes of the law, there isn't much difference. Kaleva Dec 2020 #37

In the eyes of the 4 year old and his parents who were threatened by those people, there was a HUGE pnwmom Dec 2020 #72

I'm Not impressed with your analogy Cha Dec 2020 #28

He doesn't want to read what the law says, what a MI attorney said, or what the prosecutor and AG spooky3 Dec 2020 #36

apparently no laws were broken though if I read that right. Kaleva Dec 2020 #42

Laws were broken, no arrests made. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #87

& Kentucky has open carry too.. were Cha Dec 2020 #78

Oh did those people protesting mitch Cha Dec 2020 #22

There's a difference when you're armed and yelling obscenities. blueinredohio Dec 2020 #41

lol kcr Dec 2020 #13

You must mean besides trespassing, disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct, and threatening, world wide wally Dec 2020 #74

When will they arrest the instigator malaise Dec 2020 #6

Disgusting LessAspin Dec 2020 #8

Somebody should tell Melissa that covid is likely the most infectious LisaL Dec 2020 #9

Brain damaged and brainwashed. I don't much like Nazis, either. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #21

Maybe if there were an SNL skit about it, they would stop. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #18

Ghouls has to be humiliated over his portrayal. Ligyron Dec 2020 #63

That doesn't help the people getting death threats. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #73

Start photographing them. and then put it on social media. My daughter is Gay and Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #38

WHY DO WE KEEP LOSING THE MESSAGING WAR ABOUT "VIOLENT RADICAL MOBS"?? TomDaisy Dec 2020 #52

"Stand your ground" anyone? Bueller? Bueller? CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #53

The problem is, they'd mow her down - and then claim THEY were standing theirs sandensea Dec 2020 #64

Jesus would be so proud of his good christian followers. lindysalsagal Dec 2020 #66

Where are the fucking police? Nitram Dec 2020 #69

picketing and shouting? Cerridwen Dec 2020 #70

This is not America Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #71

That this poor woman should be subjected to those hooligans is outrageous!!!!!! ailsagirl Dec 2020 #75

I'm not sure you can terrorise someone without a permit. JohnnyRingo Dec 2020 #76

She should get armed protection. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #77

❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Dec 2020 #81

Where is the national guard when you need them...? dlk Dec 2020 #84

Has anyone called AG Nessel's office demanding that the protesters' be arrested? Kaleva Dec 2020 #100