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Kaleva

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91. You are wrong

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 04:00 PM

Dec 2020

Your comment:

" I would have the police arrive and I would then go out and get names while the cops were there, "

Both Detroit and State police were there and they determined no laws were being broken and thus no arrests were made. Neither Michigan AG Nessel or Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy have called for their arrests even though both have the authority to do so.

Michigan gun laws are quirky. For instance, it's legal for me to walk around inside a public school with a gun. I have to have my CPL on me and the gun has to be open carried but it's legal. I would never do such a thing as I only keep my gun on my property except when I go to the shooting range to practice.

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MI SoS Benson says armed individuals have surrounded her home to chant obscenities at her. [View all] Nevilledog Dec 2020 OP

I thought "disturbing the peace" FoxNewsSucks Dec 2020 #1

its all good if you are a white supremacist.nt. drray23 Dec 2020 #2

what is amazing is that 18 limbaugh stations creating this bullshit depend on MSU and UofM to certainot Dec 2020 #80

As carlin would say,"that's how the owners want it " questionseverything Dec 2020 #82

So this is the Democrats' fault, that DEMOCRATS Hortensis Dec 2020 #83

Negligent sounds about right... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #85

closer to $4.6 B/year! $90M/week free for them for the next 4 weeks to Jan 5 certainot Dec 2020 #93

at least liberals can handle constructive criticism. it is irresponsible for democratic and certainot Dec 2020 #92

And also that people have time for this because treestar Dec 2020 #90

I hope she called the police. nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #3

betcha those *are* the police nt 0rganism Dec 2020 #44

+1. nt. Mariana Dec 2020 #55

Very possible. mountain grammy Dec 2020 #67

Why haven't they been driven away with tear-gas? Oh, that's right, they are white. Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #4

Get the POLICE ON THOSE ASSHOLES! Cha Dec 2020 #5

Can't. They haven't broken any laws. Kaleva Dec 2020 #7

My bad.. I thought threatening, Cha Dec 2020 #10

She said in her post she considered it threatening. And this may be illegal: spooky3 Dec 2020 #11

Yes, Threatening is in the Cha Dec 2020 #20

True, but see the link from the MI attorney - they would look at the context and circumstances. spooky3 Dec 2020 #24

I agree.. if SOS Benson feels Cha Dec 2020 #25

This isn't much different then people protesting outside the home of Mitch McConnell Kaleva Dec 2020 #12

Were they brandishing weapons outside Mitch's house? They were, at Benson's. nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #14

Open carry is legal in Michigan. Kaleva Dec 2020 #15

Not when it is threatening. See the links in my earlier post. And, you didn't answer my question. spooky3 Dec 2020 #16

I don't think you know how Michigan defines "brandishing". Kaleva Dec 2020 #17

You still did not answer my question. The answer is the protesters outside of Mitch's house spooky3 Dec 2020 #19

You have failed to show or offer evidence that guns were "brandished" at the protest. Kaleva Dec 2020 #26

Please do a modicum of research and you will find that you are wrong. Have a nice evening. nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #30

In the classes I took, this was covered. Kaleva Dec 2020 #34

Really? Show where it's legal in Michigan to threaten someone with a gun kcr Dec 2020 #31

Who pointed a gun at SOS Benson or her child? Kaleva Dec 2020 #33

Just because the police did nothing about it doesn't mean nothing happened kcr Dec 2020 #39

No but I'm probably more well versed regarding the laws then you are. Kaleva Dec 2020 #45

You are carefully avoiding answering the question relayerbob Dec 2020 #47

What question is that? Kaleva Dec 2020 #51

Were they brandishing weapons at this person's house? Were they brandishing them at McConnell's relayerbob Dec 2020 #56

As I said, I don't know how Kentucky defines "brandishing". Kaleva Dec 2020 #61

Yes, I understand.... and you still refuse to answer the question relayerbob Dec 2020 #68

You are wrong Kaleva Dec 2020 #91

Seeing as you're blatantly ignoring the information given in this thread, probably not kcr Dec 2020 #48

Where has AG Nessel said that the protestors broke the law? Kaleva Dec 2020 #57

They were screaming obscenities at her and calling her a murderer kcr Dec 2020 #43

where is your evidence that they, under Michigan law, threatened anyone with a gun? Kaleva Dec 2020 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author relayerbob Dec 2020 #46

You have Failed to make your case Cha Dec 2020 #79

If only there were a way to find out... kcr Dec 2020 #27

The kicker is proving intent. Kaleva Dec 2020 #29

Because that's so hard to do kcr Dec 2020 #32

It is very hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Kaleva Dec 2020 #35

They only brought the guns along because they're support guns kcr Dec 2020 #40

Most likely true. Kaleva Dec 2020 #49

Wow kcr Dec 2020 #50

Can you provdie a link to where the protesters "brandished" their guns at SOS Benson or her child Kaleva Dec 2020 #54

I already provided to you kcr Dec 2020 #59

Okay. where does AG Nessel say that laws were broken? Kaleva Dec 2020 #62

Yeah. She only stated the family was terrorized is all kcr Dec 2020 #65

Actually they are.. :)))) HUAJIAO Dec 2020 #58

That's my new name for them kcr Dec 2020 #60

I know I'm late to the party, I just have to ask the following... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #86

There is no way for me to prove that they were. Kaleva Dec 2020 #88

I think they broke the law, but were not charged. Aint it great to be white in America. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #94

You favor making people prove they are innocent then. Kaleva Dec 2020 #95

Switching the topic doesn't change reality. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #96

The topic is the same. You prefer making the accused prove their innocence. Kaleva Dec 2020 #98

PS to my last message... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #97

In reply to your PS Kaleva Dec 2020 #99

my point was read the whole message before replying... ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #101

We can agree that the laws here leave a lot to be desired. Kaleva Dec 2020 #102

You just said it wasn't different from the protesters around McConnell's. But the D protestors pnwmom Dec 2020 #23

I the eyes of the law, there isn't much difference. Kaleva Dec 2020 #37

In the eyes of the 4 year old and his parents who were threatened by those people, there was a HUGE pnwmom Dec 2020 #72

I'm Not impressed with your analogy Cha Dec 2020 #28

He doesn't want to read what the law says, what a MI attorney said, or what the prosecutor and AG spooky3 Dec 2020 #36

apparently no laws were broken though if I read that right. Kaleva Dec 2020 #42

Laws were broken, no arrests made. ahoysrcsm Dec 2020 #87

& Kentucky has open carry too.. were Cha Dec 2020 #78

Oh did those people protesting mitch Cha Dec 2020 #22

There's a difference when you're armed and yelling obscenities. blueinredohio Dec 2020 #41

lol kcr Dec 2020 #13

You must mean besides trespassing, disturbing the peace, disorderly conduct, and threatening, world wide wally Dec 2020 #74

When will they arrest the instigator malaise Dec 2020 #6

Disgusting LessAspin Dec 2020 #8

Somebody should tell Melissa that covid is likely the most infectious LisaL Dec 2020 #9

Brain damaged and brainwashed. I don't much like Nazis, either. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #21

Maybe if there were an SNL skit about it, they would stop. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #18

Ghouls has to be humiliated over his portrayal. Ligyron Dec 2020 #63

That doesn't help the people getting death threats. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2020 #73

Start photographing them. and then put it on social media. My daughter is Gay and Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #38

WHY DO WE KEEP LOSING THE MESSAGING WAR ABOUT "VIOLENT RADICAL MOBS"?? TomDaisy Dec 2020 #52

"Stand your ground" anyone? Bueller? Bueller? CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #53

The problem is, they'd mow her down - and then claim THEY were standing theirs sandensea Dec 2020 #64

Jesus would be so proud of his good christian followers. lindysalsagal Dec 2020 #66

Where are the fucking police? Nitram Dec 2020 #69

picketing and shouting? Cerridwen Dec 2020 #70

This is not America Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #71

That this poor woman should be subjected to those hooligans is outrageous!!!!!! ailsagirl Dec 2020 #75

I'm not sure you can terrorise someone without a permit. JohnnyRingo Dec 2020 #76

She should get armed protection. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #77

❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Dec 2020 #81

Where is the national guard when you need them...? dlk Dec 2020 #84

Has anyone called AG Nessel's office demanding that the protesters' be arrested? Kaleva Dec 2020 #100