I like AOC and many of her ideas

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80. Of course there is a point

And all the perpetual admonishments about "its not the right time".....well. this is absolutely the right time! Just as a new Democratic administration is being formed. This is the exact time that various factions and interests vie for Biden's attention and present their ideas and opinions. You can bet the corporate and conservative factions have been in his ear from the get go.

Obama turned to the right as soon as he was President. If you look at his appointments. A number of Wall Street insiders. Elizabeth Warren got nowhere near any influential financial position. And in 2010 Democrats paid for dismissing the "fucking retarded" liberals in the party as Obama's CoS put it. So you cannot blame progressives to be a little concerned and pro-active BEFORE his cabinet is set in stone.

I think some here freak out too much about party criticism. As if that isn't an integral part of democracy. Its how a party grows. Keep listening to newer younger members, (even if sometimes you think they are being rude) if nothing else to gauge how the next voting generation wants the country to move. I do not think that Joe Biden is as annoyed as some here. I'm sure he knows its just dialogue and discussion right now, and expects to hear from all sides of the party.

Somehow its okay for a Republican that votes against women's rights, gun control, workers rights , like Kasich to admonish Democrats to NOT swing progressive, but if an actual progressive Democratic rep dares to suggest they listen to a large and growing faction of Democratic party, she should shut up.