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Demsrule86

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81. She ran as a moderate...

Fri Dec 18, 2020, 07:00 PM

Dec 2020

Slotkin, who was part of Democrats blue wave that rolled over several House Congressional races in 2018, was among the few representatives to flip a battleground district when she first ran for office.

Competing in the politically-mixed district that stretches from liberal Ingham County to conservative Macomb County, Slotkin’s win cemented her identity as one of the Democrat’s more moderate representatives that could prove a force in future Michigan politics.

She also said that Donald Trump owed his success to the fact he doesn't talk down to people...something she feels some in our party do.

"7. Democrats talk down to people, rather than just talk to people. With passion for your cause comes conviction. And moderate Democratic Rep. Elissa Slotkin in Michigan is worried that Democrats can be too forceful about their opinions in a way that closes the door to anyone who doesn’t agree. She told Politico Magazine she thinks the party could take a page from Trump: “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/14/all-reasons-democrats-say-they-did-poorly-down-ballot/

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I've never seen guff heaped on AOC directed against moderates who tried to replace Speaker Pelosi [View all] bigtree Dec 2020 OP

My memory is quite different. Those "moderates" who tried to see Pelosi replaced were excoriated... hlthe2b Dec 2020 #1

where are these posts bigtree Dec 2020 #2

I struggle with this post. And then I realized. I can't name the moderates. I know they exist but Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #3

I really did think someone would say SOMETHING bigtree Dec 2020 #34

Elissa Slotkin was criticized here on DU for that comment. For some reason every time I try an.... George II Dec 2020 #78

I searched under "mushy" and got a bunch of recipes intheflow Dec 2020 #127

Wonder why moderates would want Pelosi replaced?. Could it be because she is progressive? boston bean Dec 2020 #4

You'd have to do an archive search for 2018. I encourage you to do so to reassure yourself. hlthe2b Dec 2020 #5

it's not the same level of opposition, not at all bigtree Dec 2020 #7

I do know the ringleaders were absolutely excoriated. Search, including Tim Ryan, Seth Moulton hlthe2b Dec 2020 #15

I direct you to 2018 because that was when she faced opposiition to reelection and won hlthe2b Dec 2020 #16

Four Years? ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #8

2 years then bigtree Dec 2020 #11

Excuse Me? ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #14

so you think personalizing my mistake makes your case? bigtree Dec 2020 #24

+1 sheshe2 Dec 2020 #108

You do know that 40 moderates gave us the House in 18. Any many lost this year endangering Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #17

you do realize that's less than the majority bigtree Dec 2020 #21

"Some" blame, huh. Well that seals it. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #22

And yet the progressives who support M4A won re-election and the moderates didn't. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2020 #36

Yeah--in mostly deep-blue districts. nt Jamaal510 Dec 2020 #118

You should see some of the literature and door hangers circulation Georgia these days.... George II Dec 2020 #132

Why do you trash Democratic Moderates. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #112

You're exactly right! ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2020 #20

It's the same victimhood script every time as well Sympthsical Dec 2020 #48

I remember seeing that here, even at Kathleen Rice (I was upset with her then, too) and.... George II Dec 2020 #77

"and I've never seen AOC advocate or vote against Speaker Pelosi." From Wednesday of this week: ehrnst Dec 2020 #6

that report was false bigtree Dec 2020 #9

Interesting Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #38

"I do think that we need new leadership in the Democratic Party," Ocasio-Cortez said. ehrnst Dec 2020 #40

taking a quote out of context is a curious way of making something said 'clear' bigtree Dec 2020 #49

You mention Politco and link to the Intercept? sheshe2 Dec 2020 #110

This is a very strange thread Hekate Dec 2020 #121

ymmv bigtree Dec 2020 #123

That report was 100% true, not false at all. George II Dec 2020 #113

Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #10

Most Democrats have and do support Speaker Pelosi Progressive dog Dec 2020 #12

The speaker of the House is chosen by the Democrats in the House, because they know ehrnst Dec 2020 #52

It's hard to be a liberal these days! ananda Dec 2020 #13

SAT WHAT ?! zebrapa Dec 2020 #18

This AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #26

find me ONE quote that's a 'direct shot' at the Speaker bigtree Dec 2020 #27

"I do think that we need new leadership in the Democratic Party" - AOC, 12/16 ehrnst Dec 2020 #54

an obvious distortion of her discussion bigtree Dec 2020 #59

"I do think we need new leadership in the Democratic Party" - AOC, 12/16 ehrnst Dec 2020 #60

you're dead wrong bigtree Dec 2020 #71

"I do think we need new leadership in the Democratic Party" - AOC, 12/16 ehrnst Dec 2020 #73

I agree with bigtree. PTWB Dec 2020 #83

Is there anyone who doesn't think... tonedevil Dec 2020 #84

No one stated that she did call for the immediate replacement of Speaker Pelosi. ehrnst Dec 2020 #86

Speaker Pelosi... tonedevil Dec 2020 #92

You're absolutely right, bigtree. PTWB Dec 2020 #82

Bigtree said that she never said that... because the quote wasn't include in the Intercept article. ehrnst Dec 2020 #87

Curious, why do you only cut out one sentence of the quote? PTWB Dec 2020 #88

Right in your own post: George II Dec 2020 #91

Is that what you call a direct shot? /nt tonedevil Dec 2020 #99

Yes. As direct as one can be. Bashing the Democratic House leader. There's only one.... George II Dec 2020 #103

You are being specific... tonedevil Dec 2020 #107

I am being specific. She never mentioned Democratic "Party" leadership, she was talking about.... George II Dec 2020 #109

It isn't calling for immediate replacement... tonedevil Dec 2020 #114

It is not so subtly pointing out that Democratic House and Senate leadership failed. George II Dec 2020 #115

If you say so. /nt tonedevil Dec 2020 #116

Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #19

Who are you talking about? mcar Dec 2020 #32

Wow.. Such name calling.. Cha Dec 2020 #70

It's gone mcar Dec 2020 #85

Sorry I missed that. sheshe2 Dec 2020 #111

Wow, if that's a sample of it, I'm shocked. Almost sounds like trump with his "white suburban" crap. George II Dec 2020 #95

I especially appreciate the dissonance Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #23

seems AOC isn't the 'right kind' of democrat but a former republican is. KG Dec 2020 #35

It's not dissonance if your disposition is already conservative Sympthsical Dec 2020 #50

Good replique burrowowl Dec 2020 #90

And yet the one you speak of thinks the "big tent" of the Democratic Party is too big, so I guess... George II Dec 2020 #96

False equivalence and whataboutism AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #25

you mean to say that a Democrat challenged another Democrat in our primary?? bigtree Dec 2020 #28

It is not the actual running that bothers me AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #30

You know that, definitionally, a primary is two people of the same party Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #41

No, saying that leadership should be replaces is not like running against a member of your ehrnst Dec 2020 #44

Good thing AOC didn't say that. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #47

Re read my post. ehrnst Dec 2020 #51

that is false bigtree Dec 2020 #53

Some how, some way there is speaker a elected. Right now it is Pelosi. boston bean Dec 2020 #55

and AOC has supported her twice now for leadership bigtree Dec 2020 #57

And???? boston bean Dec 2020 #58

But as of Wednesday, she seems to have changed her mind. ehrnst Dec 2020 #62

blocking you for spamming me bigtree Dec 2020 #72

It's hard being corrected, I understand. And being corrected every time one doubles down ehrnst Dec 2020 #74

"I do think that we need new leadership in the Democratic Party," Ocasio-Cortez said. ehrnst Dec 2020 #64

Interesting that you didn't quote this paragraph from the article Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #56

She said that she didn't want to be the new Speaker, but still said leadership needed ehrnst Dec 2020 #63

She didn't say that she SHOULD be replaced Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #66

That's a stretch... ehrnst Dec 2020 #69

AOC makes the Republicans nervous, panader0 Dec 2020 #29

AOC, and those who think like her, are the future of the party and of America Fiendish Thingy Dec 2020 #37

Post removed Post removed Dec 2020 #39

AOC is solidly a progressive Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2020 #42

I get tired of people complaining about how the DNC or House/Senate Democrats run campaigns. LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #31

'grow up?' lol bigtree Dec 2020 #33

Thank you! StarfishSaver Dec 2020 #61

the meme today is about defund and socialism bigtree Dec 2020 #75

You missed my posts. They had no one fit to replace Pelosi as speaker, Hortensis Dec 2020 #43

AOC is walking across an awful lot of lawns Sympthsical Dec 2020 #45

It has been shown that people become more moderate as they age AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #67

Because they "got theirs" Sympthsical Dec 2020 #80

This is true not just in politics AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #100

As people gain wealth they become more conservative Bettie Dec 2020 #97

AOC gets more attention treestar Dec 2020 #46

Remember a guy named Tim Ryan? There was still 'guff' when he ran for president. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #65

Not only did Slotkin flip a red district blue, but she is also a hard core liberal. lapucelle Dec 2020 #68

Facts... ehrnst Dec 2020 #76

She ran as a moderate... Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #81

Slotkin's voting record shows her to be a liberal. Opinion writers may assume lapucelle Dec 2020 #89

she's a proud member of the centrist, Blue Dog 'Problem Solver's Caucus' bigtree Dec 2020 #93

She's a problem solver with a liberal voting record, and I'm "cute" when I "pretend". lapucelle Dec 2020 #98

So when and where did she "undercut the House leadership"? You claiming she's a FAKE liberal.... George II Dec 2020 #101

Debbie Dingell is a "proud" member of the Problem Solvers Caucus too - is she a "moderate"? George II Dec 2020 #122

Representative Darren Soto of Florida is also a member of both the Congressional.... George II Dec 2020 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #104

She ran as a moderate. I sent you the article. That is why she is still in office. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #105

My reply double posted...happened a couple of times today. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #106

If congressional Dems could somehow channel that same anti-AOC energy against McConnell Yavin4 Dec 2020 #79

Pelosi IS a liberal. So it makes sense why those from conservative distrcts might not support her JI7 Dec 2020 #94

Well I am sure that I unloaded all the guff I had stored up on those guys grantcart Dec 2020 #102

For Pete's sake. Are you really asking us for our bona fides? I do not recall being silent --ever--... Hekate Dec 2020 #117

nowhere near the AOC hysteria bigtree Dec 2020 #119

Not hysteria, but YMMV Hekate Dec 2020 #120

I'll bet AOC is quoted on here and in the media Progressive dog Dec 2020 #124

What is interesting is Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #125

White men can say what they want to Bettie Dec 2020 #126

He was. George II Dec 2020 #128

Good to hear Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #130

If you do a DU google search with Max and mushy peas bigtree Dec 2020 #129