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In reply to the discussion: The Republican Senate Is to Blame for Not Removing Trump [View all]spanone
(141,695 posts)11. The republican senate did not call one single witness in the impeachment trial. They mocked it.
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Mitch McConnell has a problem with the facts. The Senate majority leader is taking the position that the evidence presented in the House impeachment inquiry is all the Senate needs to decide whether Trump should be removed from office, and that further testimony from witnesses in the Senate impeachment trial is unnecessary. He has announced that he is in total coordination with the White House on the matter and says he has the votes to launch proceedings in the Senate without the commitment to hear from any witnesses. Though senators like Susan Collins have indicated they want to hear witness testimony, McConnell argues that for Republicans to allow new evidence would be mutually assured destruction for GOP lawmakers in tight races this year.
Theres just one issue with McConnells preferred approach. Unless Republican senators want to accept the facts laid out by the House leadership and restrict themselves to the legal question of whether those facts demonstrate impeachable conduct, theyre going to need to call witnesses.
As many have explained, the House impeachment investigation was analogous to a grand jury investigation, with the resulting impeachment vote akin to a decision to indict. Republicans are now acting as if the House proceedings were a full trialmeaning that the Senate is now acting as an appellate court that can only consider the closed record developed below. Sen. Marco Rubio recently tweeted that the testimony & evidence considered in a Senate impeachment trial should be the same testimony & evidence the House relied upon when they passed the Articles of Impeachment.
But the text of the Constitution, the Senates own powers and the weight of history all demonstrate that this is wrong. The impeachment clauses mandate that the Senate must conduct a trialand while impeachment proceedings are not exactly a trial as would occur before a court, the principles of both criminal and civil law provide useful guidelines for how the Senate should act to fulfill its constitutional responsibility.
Theres just one issue with McConnells preferred approach. Unless Republican senators want to accept the facts laid out by the House leadership and restrict themselves to the legal question of whether those facts demonstrate impeachable conduct, theyre going to need to call witnesses.
As many have explained, the House impeachment investigation was analogous to a grand jury investigation, with the resulting impeachment vote akin to a decision to indict. Republicans are now acting as if the House proceedings were a full trialmeaning that the Senate is now acting as an appellate court that can only consider the closed record developed below. Sen. Marco Rubio recently tweeted that the testimony & evidence considered in a Senate impeachment trial should be the same testimony & evidence the House relied upon when they passed the Articles of Impeachment.
But the text of the Constitution, the Senates own powers and the weight of history all demonstrate that this is wrong. The impeachment clauses mandate that the Senate must conduct a trialand while impeachment proceedings are not exactly a trial as would occur before a court, the principles of both criminal and civil law provide useful guidelines for how the Senate should act to fulfill its constitutional responsibility.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/senate-impeachment-trial-call-witnesses-or-concede-facts
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Mitt Romney voted to convict, but he could have been a more clear-headed voice
ProudMNDemocrat
Dec 2020
#2
They all knew - like everyone else - what he was, what he did, what he was capable of.
dalton99a
Dec 2020
#3
The republican senate did not call one single witness in the impeachment trial. They mocked it.
spanone
Dec 2020
#11
Their names should be carved in stone and placed on the front of the Capitol building.
Mr.Bill
Dec 2020
#13
I hope so. I hope future generations will take the action that is required, and not brush it off
captain queeg
Dec 2020
#37
Thank you. This is an excellent counter to the endless whining about "do-nothing Dems"...
NurseJackie
Dec 2020
#29
Well said and agreed. Unfortunately, the Senate and MSM, has a short memory. During the
c-rational
Dec 2020
#34
Absolutely, the proverbial "last straw" should have been long before the election
Ohioboy
Dec 2020
#35
Shame as well, on the 74 million voters that totally failed to make the connection, and
bullwinkle428
Dec 2020
#49
I would ask if Susan Collins is losing any sleep over her pronouncements at the end of the trial
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2020
#51