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SunSeeker

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34. You definitely don't know perjury law. It has to be a "material" fact.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 07:51 PM
Dec 2020

You're the one who needs to "look it up." Start with 18 U.S. Code § 1621, which defines perjury as "an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true" [emphasis mine].

As any Google search of perjury law will teach you:

Only a “material” statement can be perjury. The false statement must be capable of influencing the proceeding – that is, it must have a relationship to the subject of the proceeding. This includes a false statement that would tend to mislead or hamper an investigation. This means that a lie, even under oath, about a subject that is not material to the proceeding is not perjury. For example, falsely bragging that “I never update my Facebook page at work,” while testifying in a case having nothing to do with social networking at work, would not be a likely candidate for a perjury charge.
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/perjury.htm

But no, you gotta bash Bill Clinton, claiming he could have been jailed. Unfuckingbelievable.

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Great but does anything ever become of these complaints? vapor2 Dec 2020 #1
No. former9thward Dec 2020 #4
but this one is from 2 former Bar presidents - connected, respected people at the Bar TomDaisy Dec 2020 #13
Exactly. And remember, Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying about whether he had an affair. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #15
Bill Clinton took an oath and then lied before a grand jury. former9thward Dec 2020 #21
It was immaterial to the investigation of the Whitewater land deal. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #28
His appearance had nothing to do with Whitewater. former9thward Dec 2020 #32
Yes, but Starr still ran with it. Which is my point. It was total crap. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #33
Believe it or not Bar presidents do things for political reasons just like other people. former9thward Dec 2020 #24
For once I agree with you. The state bar's decision to disbar Bill Clinton was TOTALLY political. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #29
Yes, lawyers can face discipline for this kind of conduct. Eugene Dec 2020 #7
Bill Clinton did not get any latitude when he was disbarred over lying about an affair. nt SunSeeker Dec 2020 #17
He did not receive jail time. former9thward Dec 2020 #22
OMFG, you seriously think lying about having an affair warrants jail time???!!! SunSeeker Dec 2020 #27
You may not know what the perjury law is and its penalty. former9thward Dec 2020 #30
You definitely don't know perjury law. It has to be a "material" fact. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #34
Yes. Bill clinton was disbarred for a LOT less egregious conduct. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #20
Excellent start soothsayer Dec 2020 #2
Are any other state bars doing this? Ohiogal Dec 2020 #3
K&R... spanone Dec 2020 #5
I filed a complaint with the Indiana AG about Captain Zero Dec 2020 #8
Good Job spanone Dec 2020 #9
Good! I hope they suffer some consequences their childish behavior Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #6
And then there is TX AG who is being investigating by the FBI question everything Dec 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #11
I imagine sanction in any state must be reported in every state where TomDaisy Dec 2020 #12
They should all be disbarred. SunSeeker Dec 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #25
Excellent! BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #16
Every lawyer who worked on these bullshit law suits needs to be taken to task for their efforts. patphil Dec 2020 #18
I'd like to file a complaint that they are not behind bars. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2020 #19
Rt.. TY for the Good News, Goth! Cha Dec 2020 #23
GOOD!!! This makes me feel better about the legal system. Even if Vivienne235729 Dec 2020 #26
Disbar them malaise Dec 2020 #31
Nessel to seek sanctions against some lawyers challenging Michigan's election results Gothmog Dec 2020 #35
Michigan will go after Sidney Powell's misconduct -- and have her disbarred: State AG Gothmog Dec 2020 #36
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