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Hekate

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74. Agree with your points, BB, *especially* about taking equity out. ,,,
Sat Dec 26, 2020, 03:33 AM
Dec 2020

My husband and I live in a high-cost region. It always has been. The house we bought was modest & initially took both our incomes; hubby was shocked when the lender bluntly asked if we were willing to rent out one of the 4 bedrooms. We stayed in that house 35 years & paid it off in 18 years. The sense of security was immense. At one point banks everywhere started pushing home equity loans: I walked past signs that urged customers to do even do this for Christmas presents, and I was aghast.

The last apartment I lived in was clean, I’ll give it that. But rent went up a good chunk every anniversary of my move-in date, unlike my salary. The manager pocketed everybody’s deposit money, so there was that to look forward to. The walls were so thin I knew the minute a smoker moved in next to me. Somebody across the quad had quite a regular sex life with multiple high-volume orgasms. Did I want to know this?

My condo with the concrete walls that I said echoed — one night I heard a terrifying scream from a woman I knew in another building across the parking structure. My acquaintance phoned me and sobbed: “She threw herself off! I saw her — She just threw herself off the balcony!” After the ambulance took the body away I brought the still-shaking neighbor over to my place until she calmed a bit & it was time for her husband to come home from night-shift. The rumor was that the dead woman was given angel dust by her boyfriend.

Then the sunny day I was watering my potted plants outside and heard the young man who lived above us tell his young wife bitterly: “All you know how to do is get pregnant.” It was all I could do to refrain from sharing my own thoughts on the subject, which had something to do with getting a vasectomy, but I figured their day was bad enough already.

Good times. Not. I crave quiet.

Give me a little house with its own 4 walls. Please. Or a big one with lots of bookcases, which is what we moved to at age 70. We bought it from a 90 year old couple who actually were downsizing. That seems about right.






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I've lived in a town house, apartment and single family home jimfields33 Dec 2020 #1
My condo has concrete insulation on all sides. Silent as a tomb. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #5
My condo was made of cast concrete, but there were a lot of buildings and we got echoes Hekate Dec 2020 #13
I am sorry to hear about your condo. Mine is so dead quite it is almost eerie. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #15
See my post #74 to Baine for more about that condo Hekate Dec 2020 #76
After the pandemic hit last spring, condo prices dropped quite a bit. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #84
My townhouse.had echos from the back where we parked Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #69
That is great. I wish when they find success they'd implement it nation wide. jimfields33 Dec 2020 #50
Basically 6 inches of concrete on all sides. Probably not that expensive. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #51
Same for me -- praise be for hurricane building standards and codes! obamanut2012 Dec 2020 #86
Nice Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #67
I lived in every type of housing including townhose so no the disadvantage 9f each Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #6
The last apartment I lived in was not a happy place. The Genealogist Dec 2020 #22
1st floor folks experience the lives of the 2nd floor people Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #68
home ownership is the number one means BainsBane Dec 2020 #2
I'm skeptical of that idea now Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #41
As opposed to rent? Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #48
I've owned two houses and if I had it to do over I would rent/lease Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #54
Mine certainly has BainsBane Dec 2020 #63
But that's my point. Those expenses detract from any overall profit you might realize. Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #64
You pay for repairs and property taxes when you rent too BainsBane Dec 2020 #65
Then you must've had your house a long time Buckeyeblue Dec 2020 #66
When you rent BainsBane Dec 2020 #71
Agree with your points, BB, *especially* about taking equity out. ,,, Hekate Dec 2020 #74
Good God, this would be way too much excitement for me. Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #82
My renting experience wasn't quite as colorful BainsBane Dec 2020 #90
Experiences differ. But home ownership created much of our wealth. GulfCoast66 Dec 2020 #72
I live in a detached condo. llmart Dec 2020 #58
I Grew up in, and Currently Live in, a 900 Sq. Foot House. MineralMan Dec 2020 #3
Mine was the same. Built in 1948. Phoenix61 Dec 2020 #8
That's true. Not so many clothes, and not so many toys. MineralMan Dec 2020 #9
Nature abhors a vacuum. nt Phoenix61 Dec 2020 #10
You are so right! MineralMan Dec 2020 #12
Me too! When I got married, I bought a small house on the same street as my childhood home liberal_mama Dec 2020 #14
About a third of my neighborhood is the 900 sq. ft. housing built in the 1950s. GoCubsGo Dec 2020 #23
Our first house was 1000 sq ft LeftInTX Dec 2020 #29
This was our house exactly, minus the basement. Same exact layout. Parents and Nay Dec 2020 #45
I grew up in one that I even doubt was 900 sq. ft. llmart Dec 2020 #59
We bought a 1000 sq ft 1952 build... EarthFirst Dec 2020 #4
Yup. Our current 900 sq. ft. house has 3/4" oak floors and MineralMan Dec 2020 #11
I am still irritated with my mother in law exboyfil Dec 2020 #7
Nothing wrong with a 1950's 900 sq footer. Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #16
I wouldn't give up my 1961 Cape Cod. NutmegYankee Dec 2020 #17
I need my own house cause I'm crazy friggin' loud ... or rather, devices that I own are ... mr_lebowski Dec 2020 #18
Lol..you would get warning letter from my hoa Demovictory9 Dec 2020 #70
If developers refused to build low-cost AFFORDABLE housing FakeNoose Dec 2020 #19
Where are you at that homes are sitting empty? Here in AZ there aren't Vivienne235729 Dec 2020 #57
It's a seller's market here in the Triangle area of NC. mnhtnbb Dec 2020 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author Hortensis Dec 2020 #97
Indeed. And just where do developers refuse to build houses Hortensis Dec 2020 #98
The big McMansions aren't selling very well where I live, either. Mariana Dec 2020 #111
Our house is our dream house Johnny2X2X Dec 2020 #20
My house has two bedrooms and one bath 960 sq. ft. built in 1943. I bought it doc03 Dec 2020 #21
Yeah otherwise they might have to raise wages. Voltaire2 Dec 2020 #24
+1 Bingo appalachiablue Dec 2020 #46
Exactly!!!! SlogginThroughIt Dec 2020 #56
That's the winner Bettie Dec 2020 #60
Well-spotted Hekate Dec 2020 #75
I love my single family home MissB Dec 2020 #25
My son's home was built in 1928...craftsman bungalow LeftInTX Dec 2020 #30
Yours was a pretty standard size for a middle class family home Hortensis Dec 2020 #100
Every residential project being built in my area Mariana Dec 2020 #26
I'm surprised. Advances in construction materials, techniques Hortensis Dec 2020 #35
I'm sure they're structurally just fine. Mariana Dec 2020 #39
I've see houses where the only real solid piece of lumber was a header supporting the stairs. Klaralven Dec 2020 #52
Actually, building codes have become stronger and stronger, Hortensis Dec 2020 #96
I wouldn't live in an apartment or town house as I have dogs and need a yard. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #27
Multiple dwelling unit living would be OK if - Klaralven Dec 2020 #28
Attached housing in Texas roaches & often rats LeftInTX Dec 2020 #31
Yes, owning condos was the "starter home" of the late 70s and early 80s...no one can sell them... LeftInTX Dec 2020 #32
There's also the HOA fees. Flaleftist Dec 2020 #37
That's what keeps me away from condos TexasBushwhacker Dec 2020 #42
All true, but nothing new, just another iteration of a very long discussion. Hortensis Dec 2020 #33
I've never related to that part of American life... I am an immigrant who grew up in NYC Blasphemer Dec 2020 #34
I feel sorry for people who need oversized houses to be happy Skittles Dec 2020 #61
Books Hekate Dec 2020 #77
Define oversized please? Bettie Dec 2020 #92
You read a whole thread by people who love their homes and Hortensis Dec 2020 #101
I seem to read the death knell of the single family home Sinistrous Dec 2020 #36
My single family home is a 1520 sqft 1970's double wide... haele Dec 2020 #38
My husband and I are ratteling around our five bedroom house Mossfern Dec 2020 #40
Same here, though now UV and heat will kill me if they can. Hortensis Dec 2020 #102
The downside of living close together is bad neighbors. Dawson Leery Dec 2020 #43
Yes, and sadly you can expect a larger proportion of people to be jerks Nay Dec 2020 #47
I think part of the problem is people buy more house ... Xolodno Dec 2020 #44
I think some of it depends on where in the country you live MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #49
I couldn't stomach living packed in with a lot of other people. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #53
I'm like you. I need my space. MustLoveBeagles Dec 2020 #55
It's partly what we've always been used to. People who've always Hortensis Dec 2020 #103
I grew up in small house... Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #105
When the researchers defined "smaller," they didn't Hortensis Dec 2020 #106
It also depends on personal space needs. Happy Hoosier Dec 2020 #107
:) Absolutely. Sounds like a well-used home. Hortensis Dec 2020 #108
We live in an 1890 Victorian Bettie Dec 2020 #62
It's fun to read the responses in this thread to see how many DUers "need their space" Ron Green Dec 2020 #73
We hold onto our house and oil is anything but cheap here DFW Dec 2020 #79
Thanks for that contrast with what we've done in the United States. Ron Green Dec 2020 #80
Our town flourished due to the consumer economy, too DFW Dec 2020 #87
$5 a gallon deterred almost nobody in the States a few years ago. Ron Green Dec 2020 #99
Has remote working and the many other revolutionary changes Hortensis Dec 2020 #104
When the suburban development experiment began to flourish, Ron Green Dec 2020 #112
Well, that doesn't really fit my observations. Hortensis Dec 2020 #114
Yeah nah Thyla Dec 2020 #78
I gave up single family house living in 2017 mnhtnbb Dec 2020 #81
What a fucked up country the US has turned into ansible Dec 2020 #85
Do you realize that the oldest people around when you Hortensis Dec 2020 #109
Should you buy or rent. It depends where you live. marie999 Dec 2020 #88
I was raised in Piney Green. Tommymac Dec 2020 #110
Our house was built just before WW2 started... CTyankee Dec 2020 #89
If it still had a fuse box an electrical upgrade was probably way overdue. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 #91
Yes. That family was probably living very simply. It was unimaginable to me. CTyankee Dec 2020 #93
The article is about living more as extended family treestar Dec 2020 #94
We should pay people to experiment with lifestyles having very small environmental footprints. hunter Dec 2020 #95
I like living in the suburbs in my own home 🏠 Raine Dec 2020 #113
Suburbia is like an amoeba devouring 'the commons" pfitz59 Dec 2020 #115
I agree with the premise Rstrstx Dec 2020 #116
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