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Manifestor_of_Light

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150. No, I am not ignoring rural America.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 04:58 AM
Jan 2021

My statements about how nearly everyone in the whole country has to have a car was not ignoring small town and rural America. I was talking about cities and small towns too. You're assuming something I did not intend. I've lived in Texas my entire life. I am well aware that you have to have a car in small towns too.

I've lived in large cities, I've lived in small towns. You had to have a car to get around in the city, because the bus service was quite unreliable and joke. It was only used by poor people who had no other alternative.

If you live in New York, San Francisco, Chicago or Boston, you can live without a car. Those are all very old cities that are densely packed. They've had mass transit for a very long time. The big cities in the South were basically made inhabitable by the widespread use of air conditioning. They have somewhat old downtowns, but also have sprawl into multiple counties.

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Bought a few hundred dollar cars and kept them rolling. Arne Jan 2021 #1
Yuck! MineralMan Jan 2021 #2
I'm going to get him before he chews something under there. Arne Jan 2021 #11
Yeah, that's the real risk. MineralMan Jan 2021 #13
Rats destroyed a housemate's car from the inside out once Withywindle Jan 2021 #43
Wire coating Bear Creek Jan 2021 #72
I hear FL folks say spraying predator urine around your engine and chassis prevents critter probs. ancianita Jan 2021 #92
In this case, I'm the predator, soo here goes. Arne Jan 2021 #94
... orangecrush Jan 2021 #127
Years ago we lived in the frozen tundra. rzemanfl Jan 2021 #34
Something similar has happened a few times to my Dad, decades ago. Archae Jan 2021 #55
That happened to our cat! LeftInTX Jan 2021 #59
one of my sister's yard cats got up in the front end of a big ole farm pickup yellowdogintexas Jan 2021 #60
I had 7 offers to buy my 1991 Subaru wagon when I left Arkansas. It ran great and only had 157,000 sinkingfeeling Jan 2021 #3
They go to the "buy here, pay here" used car lots that don't do credit checks. Arkansas Granny Jan 2021 #4
and pay credit card interest rates on vastly over priced cars quaker bill Jan 2021 #138
If I remember correctly DFW Jan 2021 #5
I had a cute little red 1960 Corvair that I bought for $100. MineralMan Jan 2021 #14
My first car I paid $800 in 1971 for a 1966 Chevy Impala SS. fwvinson Jan 2021 #46
Website link essme Jan 2021 #47
I'll have a look. MineralMan Jan 2021 #57
You are welcome! BTW essme Jan 2021 #69
Thanks for your kind words. MineralMan Jan 2021 #77
Yup - as long as you didn't go over 40-50MPH. The front end (steering wheels) would lift off erronis Jan 2021 #73
My very first driving experience was Hydroplaning down the NY state Thruway. Arne Jan 2021 #99
No they did not flotsam Jan 2021 #146
Driven in a normal manner, Corvairs were nice, responsive cars. MineralMan Jan 2021 #147
I never bought the Corvair I wanted flotsam Jan 2021 #148
Better choice, overall. MineralMan Jan 2021 #149
I loved my Corvair. I rebuilt it and figured out a way to stop a leak on the oil filter LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #74
Used cars ismnotwasm Jan 2021 #6
High-mileage cars..... lastlib Jan 2021 #36
Not that much has changed about used cars jcgoldie Jan 2021 #7
I tend to agree... Locrian Jan 2021 #66
Thank you for pointing this out, MineralMan. Ohiogal Jan 2021 #8
I know it sounds wrong, but it's more expensive to be poor Rorey Jan 2021 #9
Well, it's certainly more stressful than having enough money. MineralMan Jan 2021 #10
I look back and think about what little money I had Rorey Jan 2021 #16
My first few years of being a freelance writer MineralMan Jan 2021 #20
My safety valve was my good health Rorey Jan 2021 #28
Thank you for sharing your story! MineralMan Jan 2021 #61
You are so right. It is more expensive to be poor. MerryBlooms Jan 2021 #58
90,000 miles on a 20 year old car is excellent! Rorey Jan 2021 #93
oh yeah, and go karts, tractors, whatever could get our hands on. MerryBlooms Jan 2021 #113
I know what you're saying Rorey Jan 2021 #118
It does make sense and your post reminds me of Terry Pratchett's "Boots Theory". Flaleftist Jan 2021 #85
It is. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2021 #86
Terry Pratchett brilliantly summed it up, as usual. sir pball Jan 2021 #132
Oh yes PatSeg Jan 2021 #144
Bought an 8K Chevy Volt. Paid $195 per month JCMach1 Jan 2021 #12
I was looking for a car a few months ago Rorey Jan 2021 #18
I would never buy a Leaf due to battery degradation JCMach1 Jan 2021 #39
Good to know Rorey Jan 2021 #41
I also bought a used Volt caraher Jan 2021 #44
Two broke down in the yard and nothing to drive. bluedigger Jan 2021 #15
There is a dealer just up the road from me. In doc03 Jan 2021 #17
I've never been able to get on board with leasing Rorey Jan 2021 #21
Well if you have a couple thousand to put down and doc03 Jan 2021 #23
It's that credit rating thing that's a problem for many Rorey Jan 2021 #32
It's really just renting a car. MineralMan Jan 2021 #24
For the first time in my life I'm making a car payment Rorey Jan 2021 #30
Reliable transportation is often times a barrier to steady employment Victor_c3 Jan 2021 #19
Yes. That's a real issue, for sure. MineralMan Jan 2021 #22
When you live in a Rural area like me there isn't any doc03 Jan 2021 #25
Yup... MineralMan Jan 2021 #62
Yes. Transportation, child care and being able to afford a work wardrobe. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2021 #88
That's why there are so many folks on bikes, lower-end scooters obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #26
Oh boy did you Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #27
... greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #29
Your point? MineralMan Jan 2021 #64
John Oliver did a piece on sub prime auto loans a couple years back. Initech Jan 2021 #31
This same concept applies to rent-to-own appliances and furniture Rorey Jan 2021 #38
And are in every military town drooling after the young kids obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #82
I replaced my 2002 and 2009 vehicles last year exboyfil Jan 2021 #33
We had too many issues with the used car purchases recently. haele Jan 2021 #35
We just bought a 2001 Nissan for $4000. LakeArenal Jan 2021 #37
I'm 3 months into a 2003 Frontier with camper top onethatcares Jan 2021 #79
Lots that finance talkinghand Jan 2021 #40
When electric vehicles become more ubiquitous and older used models are available ToxMarz Jan 2021 #42
Poor folks don't usually have a yard or a driveway to work on cars in. Doing repairs on the street BamaRefugee Jan 2021 #45
A lot of the "low income" folks LIVE in those cars. davsand Jan 2021 #48
My father didn't own a new car until he was in his 60s. George II Jan 2021 #49
Best investment I ever made was the skills to maintain autos bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #50
And don't forget car insurance judesedit Jan 2021 #51
Smart observation. Pepsidog Jan 2021 #52
Good post and very true. Can't work on them much anymore; by design out of making $$$. Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #53
2003 nissan altima Ollie Garkie Jan 2021 #54
If you buy a new car, drive it until it dies or you do. WheelWalker Jan 2021 #56
One Toy 4Runner with 400,000 and VW Rabbit with 250,000 erronis Jan 2021 #95
This is a good question LeftInTX Jan 2021 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author infullview Jan 2021 #65
Nope. That's not true at all. MineralMan Jan 2021 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author infullview Jan 2021 #129
You live up to your moniker, infullview. herding cats Jan 2021 #137
Replaced... mbusby Jan 2021 #68
I live in a rural area where there are no busses or taxi services. appleannie1 Jan 2021 #70
I hear you, but I also like having the modern on-board diagnostics Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #71
Also a good argument for more public transportation. Nt raccoon Jan 2021 #75
Yes. But that only exists in urban areas. MineralMan Jan 2021 #80
Yes, except repubs always argue against funding it... even though roads get far more subsidies Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #84
They buy tickets to ride on buses and subways. nt pnwmom Jan 2021 #76
Well, they do where those exist, anyway. MineralMan Jan 2021 #78
Do you know who made us dependent on cars? Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2021 #81
That's simplistic and urban-based. MineralMan Jan 2021 #90
It's still true. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2021 #98
You're still ignoring small town and rural America. MineralMan Jan 2021 #103
No, I am not ignoring rural America. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2021 #150
You dismiss it as simplistic, but it's true that this country, especially for the last century, Ron Green Jan 2021 #105
i dont have one , cant afford one and am medicly unable to drive one . AllaN01Bear Jan 2021 #83
Thanks for that perspective. Many people I know can't drive for many reasons - and we're rural. erronis Jan 2021 #101
Excellent portrayal. Your argument for a livable minimum wage is KPN Jan 2021 #87
Thank you! This is a human rights issue. MineralMan Jan 2021 #89
Absolutely. KPN Jan 2021 #91
I've been there struggling with junkers Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #96
From one of my favorite authors Bear Creek Jan 2021 #97
Good example! MineralMan Jan 2021 #100
May I introduce to you.... orangecrush Jan 2021 #102
Used cop car in a nearby neighborhood. keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #111
I was behind a White Bronco at a light a few months ago happybird Jan 2021 #112
People bus it BainsBane Jan 2021 #104
Public transit is an urban choice only. MineralMan Jan 2021 #106
Yes, but if you need to take the bus BainsBane Jan 2021 #108
Buses not available Bear Creek Jan 2021 #114
that's not true in Minneapolis BainsBane Jan 2021 #115
It's gotten very unreliable with capacity limits such as 10 people max progree Jan 2021 #131
I haven't ridden during the pandemic BainsBane Jan 2021 #134
Several years ago I bought a used truck. cayugafalls Jan 2021 #107
New car maintenance ZERTErYNOthe Jan 2021 #109
My new car is 10 years old. I keep it up cuz it's value to me is more than I would get as a trade in keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #110
The plan is lyft, uber, and self driving cars will replace car ownership Mosby Jan 2021 #116
Whose plan is that? MineralMan Jan 2021 #119
Here is GMs plan Mosby Jan 2021 #125
Something has got to change, with global climate disruption progree Jan 2021 #133
It's a pity America doesn't believe in mass transit. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #117
Here in the Twin Cities its not working, and won't until the pandemic is over progree Jan 2021 #130
We had a free Chevette Bettie Jan 2021 #120
LOL! I had a car like that once. MineralMan Jan 2021 #121
Stick shift too Bettie Jan 2021 #123
OMG orangecrush Jan 2021 #126
You have Delphinus Jan 2021 #122
Thanks. It can be a real problem. MineralMan Jan 2021 #124
And bus service (Metro Transit) has become unreliable too - there's a 10 person limit progree Jan 2021 #128
Living on SSDI, I prefer to not have a car and have more money for other things. Kaleva Jan 2021 #135
We had two junk yards on the outskirts of town, Arne Jan 2021 #136
I worked as an general auto mechanic for several years. MineralMan Jan 2021 #140
You mentioned what a bitch the wheel bearings can be. Arne Jan 2021 #142
Glad you got that rat. MineralMan Jan 2021 #143
Seems those who know a good deal are buying the Korean cars. Arne Jan 2021 #145
K&R for a thread filled with great conversation and observations. nt crickets Jan 2021 #139
Thanks. It has been an interesting thread. MineralMan Jan 2021 #141
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