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Mike 03

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6. Maybe this explains the "confusion" this morning over Grassley possibly presiding.

Tue Jan 5, 2021, 12:41 PM

Jan 2021

This might be a staged event, where Pence makes a scene and Grassley steps in (but totally set up in advance) so that Pence doesn't disappoint Trump, but the job gets done. So that Pence can walk away with the appearance he stood up for Trump and not incur the wrath of the Trump fanatics.

Pence relinquishes his responsibilities "on principle" and Grassley does the dirty work.

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So what if Pence does decide that he won't open and read certain state electors [View all] Proud liberal 80 Jan 2021 OP

OAN saying pence will postpone Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2021 #1

Postpone WHAT? obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #7

As someone else said he is the Vanna White of the electoral vote count Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #23

Exactly -- he opens the Emmys envelope for Best Miniseries obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #42

He can't. If he doesn't do it then Grassley will. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #16

...and if Grassley won't do it? CanonRay Jan 2021 #36

No Grassley won't. He is not objecting and is retiring. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #53

Has he announced his retirement? Polybius Jan 2021 #63

I read he was retiring but I don't remember where I saw it. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #83

its an administrative function, I just don;t see Pence as a traitor or Grassley. VP sole purpose is beachbumbob Jan 2021 #2

If Pence refuses to open envelopes, he is violating the Constitution. Legally, he has no choice. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2021 #8

But you're thinking like a normal human being living in a functioning Democracy. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #13

If he doesn't open them, someone else will. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #56

So what US Code are we talking about if he doesn't do it exboyfil Jan 2021 #15

the stock market will tell him beachbumbob Jan 2021 #17

If he doesn't open them, someone else can and will StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #58

Since when has "legally" mattered to this administration? CanonRay Jan 2021 #38

My thought. David__77 Jan 2021 #3

Maybe this explains the "confusion" this morning over Grassley possibly presiding. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #6

grassley is not a traitor and I see no way he would want to have his name go down in history like beachbumbob Jan 2021 #21

That's what I'm saying. Grassley will do the right thing after Pence does the wrong thing. NT Mike 03 Jan 2021 #25

yep, I have a hard time thinking Pence simply not do his job beachbumbob Jan 2021 #28

I truly hope you're right. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #32

I would do anything in my power to prevent a scene tomorrow. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #33

There will be scene...count on it all for an audience of one...Trump. But Biden will win. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #57

Not a traitor? Grassley was one of the 47 puke senators who signed the Iran letter. niyad Jan 2021 #41

This is not the same thing...these post merely scare people tomorrow Joe Biden will be declared the Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #54

That makes a lot of sense to me. David__77 Jan 2021 #35

technically... Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #50

He can't Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #4

I understand that he 'can't' Proud liberal 80 Jan 2021 #9

It doesn't matter what he does or says Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #14

Not sure you're understanding the question ... mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #27

Nothing happens then Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #29

His not being able to stop the process by not doing it himself is different from him not doing it mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #31

What the poster is trying to ask (I think), is what if he says "FU, I refuse to open the letter" Polybius Jan 2021 #66

Yes marie999 Jan 2021 #75

I guess McConnel would assign the next in line which is Grassley from what I have heard. honest.abe Jan 2021 #22

His role is basically ceremonial. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #5

The word in the Constitution is "shall." Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #10

Might take until the 7th. NutmegYankee Jan 2021 #18

That I would agree with Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #20

depends on rules, like in another post here, aren;t "alternate slate of electors" needed? to contest beachbumbob Jan 2021 #24

No. NutmegYankee Jan 2021 #30

However, unless the House and the Senate agree on this...the certified electors are counted ... Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #59

I have no doubt on the outcome this time. NutmegYankee Jan 2021 #70

Possibly...if they do all the states separately but I hear that they real all the states' names Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #62

If Pence simply refuses to open the envelopes, I assume someone else will do it... Grassley I guess. honest.abe Jan 2021 #11

the nonsense is all placed out here by media and talking heads beachbumbob Jan 2021 #26

And Internet trolls greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #37

.... jcgoldie Jan 2021 #47

This is ridiculous StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #55

I agree but there is a somewhat legitimate question here. honest.abe Jan 2021 #69

It's not really complicated StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #73

In fact its probably even less complicated than that. honest.abe Jan 2021 #74

Yep! StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #77

Then Grassley will do it. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #12

I think Pence will save his skin by refusing "on principle" to do his duty but immediately Mike 03 Jan 2021 #19

;-{) Goonch Jan 2021 #34

Some of us here still aren't thinking outside the box CanonRay Jan 2021 #39

I think it's reasonable to be concerned about potential negative impacts of fear, panic, etc. David__77 Jan 2021 #44

There is a box and despite Trump's best efforts our courts and election people held...there is Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #64

If Congress fails to certify the election, then Pelosi will be President on Jan 20. apnu Jan 2021 #40

Congress doesn't certify the election. It's already been certified StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #60

Congress can still f this up. apnu Jan 2021 #79

Stop StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #80

The votes for biden are certified...and will be counted whether it take two hours or fourteen. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #65

Maybe white satan will develop a sudden attack of the flu. niyad Jan 2021 #43

If he doesn't open and count certain state electors, Sogo Jan 2021 #45

What if the Earth stops revolving? Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #46

He will be ruled out of order. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #48

What if the sky falls tomorrow? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #49

He didn't have the courage about trump, he will have even less courage if he has GemDigger Jan 2021 #51

Learning to drink is easy... jcgoldie Jan 2021 #67

If he refuses to have them open and read them. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #52

No. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #61

+1000000 Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #71

That will not happen. And I promise you the GOP isn't going to let that happen...first of all Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #68

Anyone refusing to do their job is effectively quitting. They should resign. lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #72

Funny, in 230 years of elections sarisataka Jan 2021 #76

The procedure is spelled out in detail in this document csziggy Jan 2021 #78

The Constitution isn't a suicide pact: Pence can't stop everything struggle4progress Jan 2021 #81

Nothing of consequence will happen. Absolutely nothing of consequence or note. LanternWaste Jan 2021 #82