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Mike 03

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13. But you're thinking like a normal human being living in a functioning Democracy.

Reply to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 5, 2021, 12:45 PM

Jan 2021

For Pence's public and political future, he must abandon Trump.

Pence is thinking, "For my political future, I must not be seen as abandoning Trump."

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So what if Pence does decide that he won't open and read certain state electors [View all] Proud liberal 80 Jan 2021 OP

OAN saying pence will postpone Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2021 #1

Postpone WHAT? obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #7

As someone else said he is the Vanna White of the electoral vote count Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #23

Exactly -- he opens the Emmys envelope for Best Miniseries obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #42

He can't. If he doesn't do it then Grassley will. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #16

...and if Grassley won't do it? CanonRay Jan 2021 #36

No Grassley won't. He is not objecting and is retiring. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #53

Has he announced his retirement? Polybius Jan 2021 #63

I read he was retiring but I don't remember where I saw it. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #83

its an administrative function, I just don;t see Pence as a traitor or Grassley. VP sole purpose is beachbumbob Jan 2021 #2

If Pence refuses to open envelopes, he is violating the Constitution. Legally, he has no choice. Eyeball_Kid Jan 2021 #8

But you're thinking like a normal human being living in a functioning Democracy. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #13

If he doesn't open them, someone else will. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #56

So what US Code are we talking about if he doesn't do it exboyfil Jan 2021 #15

the stock market will tell him beachbumbob Jan 2021 #17

If he doesn't open them, someone else can and will StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #58

Since when has "legally" mattered to this administration? CanonRay Jan 2021 #38

My thought. David__77 Jan 2021 #3

Maybe this explains the "confusion" this morning over Grassley possibly presiding. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #6

grassley is not a traitor and I see no way he would want to have his name go down in history like beachbumbob Jan 2021 #21

That's what I'm saying. Grassley will do the right thing after Pence does the wrong thing. NT Mike 03 Jan 2021 #25

yep, I have a hard time thinking Pence simply not do his job beachbumbob Jan 2021 #28

I truly hope you're right. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #32

I would do anything in my power to prevent a scene tomorrow. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #33

There will be scene...count on it all for an audience of one...Trump. But Biden will win. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #57

Not a traitor? Grassley was one of the 47 puke senators who signed the Iran letter. niyad Jan 2021 #41

This is not the same thing...these post merely scare people tomorrow Joe Biden will be declared the Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #54

That makes a lot of sense to me. David__77 Jan 2021 #35

technically... Grasswire2 Jan 2021 #50

He can't Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #4

I understand that he 'can't' Proud liberal 80 Jan 2021 #9

It doesn't matter what he does or says Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #14

Not sure you're understanding the question ... mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #27

Nothing happens then Dem4Life1102 Jan 2021 #29

His not being able to stop the process by not doing it himself is different from him not doing it mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #31

What the poster is trying to ask (I think), is what if he says "FU, I refuse to open the letter" Polybius Jan 2021 #66

Yes marie999 Jan 2021 #75

I guess McConnel would assign the next in line which is Grassley from what I have heard. honest.abe Jan 2021 #22

His role is basically ceremonial. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #5

The word in the Constitution is "shall." Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #10

Might take until the 7th. NutmegYankee Jan 2021 #18

That I would agree with Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #20

depends on rules, like in another post here, aren;t "alternate slate of electors" needed? to contest beachbumbob Jan 2021 #24

No. NutmegYankee Jan 2021 #30

However, unless the House and the Senate agree on this...the certified electors are counted ... Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #59

I have no doubt on the outcome this time. NutmegYankee Jan 2021 #70

Possibly...if they do all the states separately but I hear that they real all the states' names Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #62

If Pence simply refuses to open the envelopes, I assume someone else will do it... Grassley I guess. honest.abe Jan 2021 #11

the nonsense is all placed out here by media and talking heads beachbumbob Jan 2021 #26

And Internet trolls greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #37

.... jcgoldie Jan 2021 #47

This is ridiculous StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #55

I agree but there is a somewhat legitimate question here. honest.abe Jan 2021 #69

It's not really complicated StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #73

In fact its probably even less complicated than that. honest.abe Jan 2021 #74

Yep! StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #77

Then Grassley will do it. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #12

I think Pence will save his skin by refusing "on principle" to do his duty but immediately Mike 03 Jan 2021 #19

;-{) Goonch Jan 2021 #34

Some of us here still aren't thinking outside the box CanonRay Jan 2021 #39

I think it's reasonable to be concerned about potential negative impacts of fear, panic, etc. David__77 Jan 2021 #44

There is a box and despite Trump's best efforts our courts and election people held...there is Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #64

If Congress fails to certify the election, then Pelosi will be President on Jan 20. apnu Jan 2021 #40

Congress doesn't certify the election. It's already been certified StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #60

Congress can still f this up. apnu Jan 2021 #79

Stop StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #80

The votes for biden are certified...and will be counted whether it take two hours or fourteen. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #65

Maybe white satan will develop a sudden attack of the flu. niyad Jan 2021 #43

If he doesn't open and count certain state electors, Sogo Jan 2021 #45

What if the Earth stops revolving? Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #46

He will be ruled out of order. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #48

What if the sky falls tomorrow? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #49

He didn't have the courage about trump, he will have even less courage if he has GemDigger Jan 2021 #51

Learning to drink is easy... jcgoldie Jan 2021 #67

If he refuses to have them open and read them. LiberalFighter Jan 2021 #52

No. StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #61

+1000000 Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #71

That will not happen. And I promise you the GOP isn't going to let that happen...first of all Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #68

Anyone refusing to do their job is effectively quitting. They should resign. lindysalsagal Jan 2021 #72

Funny, in 230 years of elections sarisataka Jan 2021 #76

The procedure is spelled out in detail in this document csziggy Jan 2021 #78

The Constitution isn't a suicide pact: Pence can't stop everything struggle4progress Jan 2021 #81

Nothing of consequence will happen. Absolutely nothing of consequence or note. LanternWaste Jan 2021 #82