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haele

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36. Krogers/Ralphs and Target switched to Door-Dash four years ago in CA. Nothing to do with Prop 22.
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 04:55 PM
Jan 2021

California does not protect ad hoc service jobs if the company wants to get rid of a category of worker, even if the shop or worksite is union. Janitorial and on-call workers get outsourced to contract all the time, as they are not a regular shift/hourly worker. If Albertsons or Pavilions/Vons can "justify" delivery drivers as non-essential or on-call/only as needed, they can drop delivery service and switch to door-dash or Insta-cart.

Teamsters Union thinking that they had the upper hand while the barn door was already open (see above, Ralphs switching over years ago) screwed over the Albertsons and Vons drivers, not Prop 22.

It's not fair at all, and everyone should be protected, but Prop 22 was to protect people who didn't or couldn't work a set schedule shift due to a variety of reasons. Forcing these people to be "employees" meant they had no flexibility to work on their schedule, which is why they went into the "gig" in the first place. The first or second time they couldn't work an assigned shift, or they had to bail after an hour due to some sort of emergency issue, they would be fired, just as those who work food service are.
These are people such as a full time student or a family caretaker, or someone with a disability that can work between "spells". They can't determine when they are able to work from day to day, let alone answer to a supervisor who has to make shift schedules on a weekly or monthly basis.

What is really needed is a form of benefits package that is not tied to a full time job, so people who can only work flex are covered as well as people who work union or defined benefits jobs.

Haele

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K & R musette_sf Jan 2021 #1
This. Big money completely blanketed the airwaves with lies. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #2
They have misleading wording that is back assword in our state. Arne Jan 2021 #4
Yeah, like that "Right to Work" bullshit Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #18
KnR Hekate Jan 2021 #3
Americans Are Not Too Bright sfstaxprep Jan 2021 #5
I voted No on that prop Nictuku Jan 2021 #6
Yep, I voted no as well crimycarny Jan 2021 #15
Kick dalton99a Jan 2021 #7
Door dash gig workers destroy full time well paying jobs w/ benefits for minimum wage & no benefits Fullduplexxx Jan 2021 #8
Not the workers. The large companies that exploit them to displace union workers StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #12
K&R, Albertson did such during a pandemic and economic depression for working people. What assholes uponit7771 Jan 2021 #9
Yes it stinks, but this is the way the entire country is going FakeNoose Jan 2021 #10
I suspect we will put some balls to the wall by then. LSFL Jan 2021 #11
That's what I fear too Calculating Jan 2021 #37
I just got out my election stuff to make sure BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #13
People voted for it becsuse they want to pay less for these things JI7 Jan 2021 #14
You could see that coming a million miles away. Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #16
Problem is that California is a right to work state. haele Jan 2021 #17
California is not a right to work state Jose Garcia Jan 2021 #32
I voted for it. I have family members who Uber. TomCADem Jan 2021 #19
huh? Skittles Jan 2021 #20
I have a cousin who needs a flexible job. TomCADem Jan 2021 #21
so because your cousin...needs to be exploited Skittles Jan 2021 #22
Exactly. The Majority of Californians Agree TomCADem Jan 2021 #27
understood Piasladic Jan 2021 #24
When Trumpsters Call You a Socialist or Communist TomCADem Jan 2021 #28
It passed because some union members take for granted their rights Piasladic Jan 2021 #30
When did the strike start? Jose Garcia Jan 2021 #34
the definition Piasladic Jan 2021 #39
Most Americans who work are not members of a union. Are most Americans scabs? Jose Garcia Jan 2021 #42
Then you voted anti-union. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #23
Yup. I Guess I Did. I Am Member of a Union TomCADem Jan 2021 #25
You are a union member who voted to make scabs legal obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #35
That's is the thing. What you said is not convincing. TomCADem Jan 2021 #40
It's beyond gross. MrsCoffee Jan 2021 #43
Agreed obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author coti Jan 2021 #26
Yay, Silicon Valley! Yay, Innovation! Yay, Shitty Gig Jobs With Shitty Pay! hatrack Jan 2021 #29
As awful as this is, it's kind of remarkable that it took as long as it did. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #31
Krogers/Ralphs and Target switched to Door-Dash four years ago in CA. Nothing to do with Prop 22. haele Jan 2021 #36
Krogers/Ralphs and Target switched to Door-Dash four years ago in CA. Nothing to do with Prop 22. haele Jan 2021 #38
Boycott Vons and Albertsons ffr Jan 2021 #33
Gig worker here. Working in a job is not so hot as well DSandra Jan 2021 #41
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