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ProSense

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19. What?

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:58 PM

Oct 2012

No, you aren't understanding, you are reading what I'm saying from a hostile, suspcious POV,

And misinterpreting everything I'm saying. You think that I'm trying to lay suspicion at Obama's feet, I'm not.

I'm doing no such thing. I'm asking you a question based on your point.

So let me try again.

Which is, there has been proven, documented cases of presidents manipulating the employment data for their own political gain. This sort of manipulation breeds general distrust in any employment number that seems too good or bad to be true. That is why it is, at least, understandable to see these conspiracy theories spring up. Hell, we saw the same type of conspiracy theories spring up under Bush and other presidents as well.

Do you have a link to these "documented cases"?

Secondly, if you don't believe the conspiracy applies to Obama, who do you suspect is trying to get him elected?

Again, is Gallup in on this too: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1480605

Simple questions.

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Questioning the unemployment and jobs data is complete idiocy. [View all] ProSense Oct 2012 OP

Never attribute to mere idiocy Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #1

Aw, c'mon...you already knew they were childish, idiotic and petty. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #2

Does anyone, for a moment, think if the numbers had gone in the other direction, we'd be having.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #3

They are cheering for our demise. Lasher Oct 2012 #4

It's bizarre. ProSense Oct 2012 #5

Gallup independently corroborates the drop ThoughtCriminal Oct 2012 #6

Evidently, the President controls Gallup. ProSense Oct 2012 #9

The numbers would have been fine, nearing perfection, if the rate had gone up to 9%. 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 #7

"Sasquatch might as well have traipsed across the White House lawn..." ProSense Oct 2012 #11

In the last quarter, cleduc Oct 2012 #8

ADP, ProSense Oct 2012 #10

And while you're studying that reality GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #12

Rove is an idiot ProSense Oct 2012 #13

Hey! That's *President* McCain to you! Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #20

No, it isn't. MadHound Oct 2012 #14

"Am I saying that Obama fudged the numbers, no." ProSense Oct 2012 #15

I think that you are misunderstanding me. MadHound Oct 2012 #16

I understood, which is why ProSense Oct 2012 #17

No, you aren't understanding, you are reading what I'm saying from a hostile, suspcious POV, MadHound Oct 2012 #18

What? ProSense Oct 2012 #19

Trying to talk with you is like playing the old telephone game sometimes, MadHound Oct 2012 #21

You're obfuscating. You can't answer a simple question. ProSense Oct 2012 #24

Obfuscating what? Geez, I give it up. MadHound Oct 2012 #25

More obfuscation: ProSense Oct 2012 #27

You give up? You never should have started! A Simple Game Oct 2012 #29

Wow ProSense Oct 2012 #30

that graph is astonishing SmileyRose Oct 2012 #22

They're in denial Spirochete Oct 2012 #23

On Real Time tonight they discussed how unpatriotic it is to try and downplay applegrove Oct 2012 #26

Accusing anyone of manipulating the data is idiocy. dkf Oct 2012 #28

Well, they can't tell the truth... Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #31

The republican playbook is to attempt to de-legitimize any fact that does not fit their narrative. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #32

k&r... spanone Oct 2012 #33