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StarfishSaver

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149. No, I'm not

Thu Jan 7, 2021, 01:36 AM

Jan 2021

But I'm not surprised you would say that.

However, unlike you, I see the difference between an epidemic of unarmed black men posing no threat to anyone being killed (often shot in the back and/or while running away) by white police officers on various public streets because they claim they were in fear of their lives on one hand, and, on the other, a white woman who was part of a violent terrorist mob who overwhelmed Capitol Police to illegally storm the U.S. Capitol being shot by law enforcement after as she tried to force her way into the Speaker's Lobby which would have put her steps away from the House chamber.

It's perfectly rational to be ok with one and not ok with the other. Which one you're ok with and which one you're not ok with is very telling.

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About the woman who died...RIP you didn't deserve to die. [View all] Lunabell Jan 2021 OP

I haven't seen much glee, just shrugs. BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #1

play stupid games, win stupid prizes RAB910 Jan 2021 #2

I'm not ... but I'm glad some others are. Not telling anyone how to feel about it :) nt mr_lebowski Jan 2021 #3

Bullshit BadDog40 Jan 2021 #4

Agreed Mystery sage Jan 2021 #31

Well said! nt Maru Kitteh Jan 2021 #151

like hell she didn't. uncle ray Jan 2021 #5

I wonder why out of everyone she got shot? soothsayer Jan 2021 #6

A witness said that the SS or police told her to move back from the main chamber and she refused Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #25

Huh, she looked to be climbing through a window soothsayer Jan 2021 #30

Right, that is what the witness said, they were in front of a window near the chamber. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #32

Oh a window near the chamber soothsayer Jan 2021 #34

She shoved thru a duffel bag and then started to climb thru Nevilledog Jan 2021 #37

And considering that 2 explosive devices had already been found, dware Jan 2021 #41

Exactly. Could have been anything in the duffle. Guns, bombs, ammo. Midnight Writer Jan 2021 #94

She is a military vet so could have access and knowledge of weapons. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #127

She was climbing into Pelosi's office mcar Jan 2021 #126

All she had to do is just obey the cops. Isn't that what they always say about blacks getting Solomon Jan 2021 #124

In the Reddit video I posted in another thread, she was trying to climb into the chamber. OnlinePoker Jan 2021 #38

Jesus. Sixteen. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2021 #48

Not too many 16 year old military vets in the U.S. nt Progressive Jones Jan 2021 #154

No she wasn't, she served in the AF for 14 years obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #174

I Didn't Know The Air Force Was Recruiting Toddlers /s smb Jan 2021 #181

Can you please share the video here? SMC22307 Jan 2021 #54

here (warning, it's VERY graphic) Celerity Jan 2021 #83

Not to stir anything up but... Montauk6 Jan 2021 #88

everything I have seen said it was the Secret Service, and they warned them to stop trying to Celerity Jan 2021 #96

Considering that 2 explosive devices had been found earlier, dware Jan 2021 #103

Thank you. SMC22307 Jan 2021 #93

No, she wasn't 16. Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #116

32 at the youngest Retrograde Jan 2021 #122

Evidently this is the woman who was killed... SMC22307 Jan 2021 #117

Army veteran with intelligence experience. She knew better. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #128

I learned in another thread she's a Q loon. SMC22307 Jan 2021 #130

Right. nt Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #131

Air Force, not Army Yeehah Jan 2021 #168

oops sorry, thanks for the correction! nt Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #184

No she wasn't, she served in the AF for 14 years obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #172

She looked to be the only one climbing through the window fleur-de-lisa Jan 2021 #44

Someone pointed out that she was trying to push a bag through the window. Blue_true Jan 2021 #67

Yep. dware Jan 2021 #81

I wonder what the people saying that she should not have been shot Blue_true Jan 2021 #198

Oh, I think it's a safe bet on what they would have said. nt dware Jan 2021 #200

Exactly. Could have been weapons of some sort. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #185

GRAPHIC -- They battered their way through internal security doors and windows Apollo Zeus Jan 2021 #193

I'll admit it Silent3 Jan 2021 #7

Being dumb can be fatal. She woke up this morning not expecting it to be her last day. idziak4ever1234 Jan 2021 #8

I agree. She was young. Send her to prison but don't shoot her. It was in the Capitol, a s Walleye Jan 2021 #9

You know what she was a danger to others. She should not have stormed the Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #65

Of course. But we can't regret the loss of life? Walleye Jan 2021 #75

She had a bag with her. What if that was a bomb? Should they have let her set it off? nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #76

I'm sure that whoever shot her will be going over that question in their mind for the rest of their Walleye Jan 2021 #78

the problem with that is she could have been carrying a gun when she broken into the capital rockfordfile Jan 2021 #86

That's true she brought it on herself, but it's still a tragedy Walleye Jan 2021 #91

Yes, it was a tragedy but not the part of her getting shot and killed JI7 Jan 2021 #145

play stupid games demtenjeep Jan 2021 #10

Shit happens when you storm the capital. Cobalt Violet Jan 2021 #11

You got that right. (n/t) SMC22307 Jan 2021 #51

I agree rockfordfile Jan 2021 #87

I think that's where I'm at too. If you storm the Capitol building ecstatic Jan 2021 #115

I sure saw a lot of glee among those animals as they ransacked our Capitol building. Aristus Jan 2021 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author AngryOldDem Jan 2021 #66

She was participating in a criminal assault with Downtown Hound Jan 2021 #13

Disagree. Drahthaardogs Jan 2021 #14

Yeah. Who knew what she was planning--any of them? BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #23

What she was planning? BGBD Jan 2021 #120

That's my point though--law enforcement didn't know BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #121

Ok BGBD Jan 2021 #143

Grabbing a cops taser is not enough treestar Jan 2021 #136

Being part of a vigilante mob Drahthaardogs Jan 2021 #140

She was shot while trying to push a duffle bag through the broken window, dware Jan 2021 #15

Exactly. blm Jan 2021 #17

I feel no joy. MontanaFarmer Jan 2021 #16

I really dont care.... SammyWinstonJack Jan 2021 #18

People die everyday keithsw Jan 2021 #19

Thank you for saying that. tinrobot Jan 2021 #20

I commend your kindness. Frasier Balzov Jan 2021 #21

Look, if violent mobs are breaking into secure place with elected officials as targets, you don't Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #22

Many people died during the BLM protests oro Jan 2021 #24

She was apparently or had pushed a bag through the broken window. Blue_true Jan 2021 #90

No glee Bettie Jan 2021 #26

Given how often on this board I've had to defend unarmed black men shot dead by the police StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #134

I get that too Bettie Jan 2021 #141

It's downright amazing that only one person was shot StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #142

Yes, there would have been Bettie Jan 2021 #161

They planned on executing staffers kcr Jan 2021 #27

They did? What's your source for that? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 #40

LOL kcr Jan 2021 #58

This? sheshe2 Jan 2021 #114

Really, they were planning to execute people in the capitol...why the hell were they allowed to walk Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #69

Good question kcr Jan 2021 #72

Agree... Mike Nelson Jan 2021 #28

Nope! Nt USALiberal Jan 2021 #29

she looked young d_b Jan 2021 #33

She literally died wearing a Trump flag as a cape. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #61

She was in the Air Force fpr 14 years, she was not a kid obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #176

Nope, not that young. cwydro Jan 2021 #182

I just read about it. d_b Jan 2021 #190

Totally disgusting what happened. Initech Jan 2021 #35

+100000000000000000000000000000000 x 4 AmyStrange Jan 2021 #36

-999999999999999999999999999 USALiberal Jan 2021 #56

??? AmyStrange Jan 2021 #64

I didn't claim to be better than her UnderThisLaw Jan 2021 #39

I want to know some Real News about her before passing judgment. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2021 #42

It wasn't a stupid game. It was a part of her act of treason. Ilsa Jan 2021 #43

I feel badly she ignored the better angels of her nature. LanternWaste Jan 2021 #45

She bought the ticket, she took the ride. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #46

She breached the Capital. It was an attack on all of us. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2021 #47

If a black man deserved to be shot in the back because he tried to get back into his car StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #49

Well said. oro Jan 2021 #119

If you are ok with the one treestar Jan 2021 #146

No, I'm not StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #149

I disagree with your point. I think you are using a Faulty Comparison Fallacy irisblue Jan 2021 #163

You know who else didn't deserve to die? Heather Heyer and Summer Taylor to name a couple. Autumn Jan 2021 #50

+100. nt dware Jan 2021 #85

Breonna Taylor didn't deserve to die Retrograde Jan 2021 #129

No many didn't deserve to die. But IMO this woman deserved what she got. I feel no sympathy Autumn Jan 2021 #132

No one said they did treestar Jan 2021 #135

When they are breaking into the Capital through a window pushing in a large duffel yeah cops can Autumn Jan 2021 #139

I hate Republicans treestar Jan 2021 #148

The Capitol police should have never let it get that far JonLP24 Jan 2021 #152

Anybody rioting who crawls through a broken window in the Capitol while they are in session Autumn Jan 2021 #175

I get your perspective. David__77 Jan 2021 #52

I also read that a window was broken and she was attempting to shove a backpack or duffle... ginny skinny Jan 2021 #53

She could also be the basis of felony murder charges coti Jan 2021 #55

Unless one is very young and/or mentally deficient, I'm not going to feel sorry. Kaleva Jan 2021 #57

One of the videos (reposted from twitter here on DU) drmeow Jan 2021 #59

It is bad her cause was not noble. Trump has changed everything, Baked Potato Jan 2021 #60

Someone said that she was pushing something into the window. Blue_true Jan 2021 #62

If she breached the building then ZERO sympathy. Nt helpisontheway Jan 2021 #63

Boo-fucking-woo tenderfoot Jan 2021 #68

I'm sorry she died... but 100% predictable NT Happy Hoosier Jan 2021 #70

It is what is... HipChick Jan 2021 #71

There will be more sympathy for her including among white people on the left JI7 Jan 2021 #73

Sad but true. Tamir Rice was a child. This woman joined an insurrection and stormed the capitol. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #79

especially the OP tenderfoot Jan 2021 #80

Yep. It's predictable kcr Jan 2021 #84

I agree Raine Jan 2021 #74

Sorry, having a hard time finding sympathy. AngryOldDem Jan 2021 #77

From what I can tell she wasn't threatening anyone's life. It looks like... LAS14 Jan 2021 #82

She had a FUCKING duffel bag that none of the officers knew what inside. Blue_true Jan 2021 #99

I understand your feelings, and I LuckyCharms Jan 2021 #89

If I Could Unrec A Thread... ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #92

I share you sentiments. Blue_true Jan 2021 #105

+ JI7 Jan 2021 #108

Exactly, Prof obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #177

At the moment she was breaking through into the Capitol, she was no different than this guy Tarc Jan 2021 #95

She was climbing up thru a shattered glass section to the right of the door. She was a terrorist. BlueNProud Jan 2021 #97

The video is on YT....(n/t) ginny skinny Jan 2021 #98

I feel no glee just sadness for a life wasted on a stupid cause MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #100

She was a domestic terrorist. StarryNite Jan 2021 #101

Do we even know who shot her? It could have been a gun discharged from outside the door. tblue37 Jan 2021 #102

From what I have read, she was trying to push through a duffel bag. Blue_true Jan 2021 #109

She was committing multiple felonies... JCMach1 Jan 2021 #104

The bag that she was trying to push through or had pushed through could Blue_true Jan 2021 #110

Exactly JCMach1 Jan 2021 #113

It's too soon to discuss gun violence. tenderfoot Jan 2021 #106

What's your point? Disarm the Capitol Police? Good luck with that. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #186

She was shot by Secret Service tenderfoot Jan 2021 #191

No, according to the Chief of the MPD, dware Jan 2021 #195

Regardless - she went there for a fight and paid for it tenderfoot Jan 2021 #196

Yes she did. dware Jan 2021 #197

Don't know if she deserved to or not SlogginThroughIt Jan 2021 #107

She was trying to push a duffel bag through or had pushed it through Blue_true Jan 2021 #111

+100. nt dware Jan 2021 #112

Right. SlogginThroughIt Jan 2021 #118

No pity mcar Jan 2021 #123

Fuck no! n/t MicaelS Jan 2021 #125

Play stupid games, TheCowsCameHome Jan 2021 #133

Try this mcar Jan 2021 #137

She didn't deserve to die BainsBane Jan 2021 #138

More than 4,000 Americans died from COVID today hatrack Jan 2021 #144

If she had been with treestar Jan 2021 #147

I found myself feeling nothing for this person's death earlier backtoblue Jan 2021 #153

No we wouldn't. People criticize liberal protests all the time here . Including things like blocking JI7 Jan 2021 #160

Bullshit. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #178

If BLM was the group that stormed the Capitol, they would all be dead right now. Now you see how IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #180

When you need two parenthetical asides kcr Jan 2021 #183

That is so ridiculous. joshcryer Jan 2021 #194

Oh screw that. She decided to become a terrorist and terrorists DIE. Maru Kitteh Jan 2021 #150

I don't care. sir pball Jan 2021 #155

She asked for it. dalton99a Jan 2021 #156

She was a thug killed in the commission of a violent crime. If it's OK to kill Eric Garner for... NNadir Jan 2021 #157

"THE REJECTION OF ALL RELIGIOUS AND MORAL PRINCIPLES, IN THE BELIEF THAT LIFE IS MEANINGLESS"/amway. greyl Jan 2021 #158

Her actions are to blame. I will save my sympathy for the innocent. tblue37 Jan 2021 #159

I will sympathize with innocent people who died from Covid. A tresspasser, not so much! akbacchus_BC Jan 2021 #162

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see people on this site expressing "glee" about her death mtnsnake Jan 2021 #164

No sympathy from me. nt DLevine Jan 2021 #165

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2021 #166

She was engaged in a criminal tresspassing act AmericanCanuck Jan 2021 #167

No sympathy here. She knew what she was getting into. bif Jan 2021 #169

Yes she did. Breaking in to the inner halls of congress not enough? Victory at Yorktown Jan 2021 #170

Yes she did obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #171

all the terrorists who attacked the capitol should face felony murder charges rdking647 Jan 2021 #173

No, she did not deserve that. Next time the police should allow these people in to harm whoever IsItJustMe Jan 2021 #179

play stupid games win stupid prizes. Voltaire2 Jan 2021 #187

She chose her fate. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #188

Why are people leaving it as trespassing? marie999 Jan 2021 #189

How about the cop in critical condition...hit with a lead pipe...no sympathy for this terrorist... Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #192

I'm saddened to see any unarmed person shot in the back. nt Kahuna Jan 2021 #199

There was a line. She crossed it. slutticus Jan 2021 #201